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Old 06-29-2016, 05:03 AM
 
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Honestly, I'd rather HDTVs not have the added "smart" features and just stuck with providing the best viewing experience as possible. Maybe instead of adding smart apps, add a built in Blu-Ray player as a standard.
I like the networking features, the apps I can do without. I have LG and the apps are very limited anyway. They are also a PITA in the ass to use without a keyboard and I don't know if I can hook a keyboard to it. I think I saw one sold by LG but I don't know if regular one will work. It's not something I really explored.

Never liked the idea of dual purpose devices. If the TV dies you now have the worlds largest Blu ray player, of course when they are cheap enough I guess it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. Adding a bay(s) for standard computer devices would certainly be an interesting idea. Drives like a Blu ray would have to be thin but they could be backwards compatible to fit into computer, other possibilities are SSD drives etc.
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Old 06-29-2016, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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I like the networking features, the apps I can do without. I have LG and the apps are very limited anyway. They are also a PITA in the ass to use without a keyboard and I don't know if I can hook a keyboard to it. I think I saw one sold by LG but I don't know if regular one will work. It's not something I really explored.

Never liked the idea of dual purpose devices. If the TV dies you now have the worlds largest Blu ray player, of course when they are cheap enough I guess it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. Adding a bay(s) for standard computer devices would certainly be an interesting idea. Drives like a Blu ray would have to be thin but they could be backwards compatible to fit into computer, other possibilities are SSD drives etc.
Don't get me wrong. Honestly, I'd rather a TV just be a TV. No extra bells and whistles unless they're used to further enhance the picture quality. Honestly, I wouldn't even care if the TV didn't come with speakers. The speakers on my Vizio are horrible. I can't hear half of the stuff said. I've even resorted to turning on the Closed Caption (too many years of listening to loud heavy metal, lol!) I'd rather have a sound bar or have the TV hooked up to a receiver.
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Old 06-29-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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When you look at a TV with better/more features [more expensive] it will be 'smart' And there aren't 1000's of 'regular' TV's or even 100's And with Samsung, you can go to their web site to update the apps. on the TV
That's absolutely not true. There are so many non-Smart TV's available. And what features do Smart TV's have over non? More HDMI ports? No. Better contrast ratios? No. Curved screen? OK, maybe. Not a killer feature for me.

And sure you can go to Samsung's website and update it if Sammy has released a new update. With a Roku or Chrome Cast or Fire Stick... you can get updates when the individual app makers release updates. New channels are added on the Fire Stick and Roku every week. No update from Roku required. New stuff just shows up in the Channel Store.

There's inherently nothing wrong with Smart TV's. I'm not trying to give anyone that impression. I actually really like LG's WebOS Smart TV's. Steer clear of Vizio's Smart TV interface. Nothing but bad reviews there.
But I would prefer to get MORE bang for my buck by getting a better non-Smart TV (because if you pay $500 for a non Smart vs $500 for a Smart you are going to get MORE features on the non...not less).

Having said all that...
I've been watching and looking and reading and researching about TV's, and watching prices and looking in stores for over a year now. Seriously. I settled for a 'sort of Smart' Roku TV. I made a serious commitment to Roku here. The most important thing to me was plentiful HDMI ports which are sadly lacking on most name brand TV's.
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Old 06-29-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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A quick unscientific look at BestBuy shows ~ 80/250 TVs are not smart.
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Old 06-29-2016, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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When my Toshiba 32" tube TV died 18 months ago ago, I researched for a NON smart TV that was at least 48", was 1080, had 3 HDMI, 'ARC' for the A/V receiver, component, composite. They don't exist. If you want extra features, it will be a smart TV.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:55 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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When my Toshiba 32" tube TV died 18 months ago ago, I researched for a NON smart TV that was at least 48", was 1080, had 3 HDMI, 'ARC' for the A/V receiver, component, composite. They don't exist. If you want extra features, it will be a smart TV.
I'm not sure what the other features have go to do with the TV being Smart but a quick search on Best Buy shows:

Toshiba 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - HDTV Black 55L310U - Best Buy

Dumb Toshiba 55-in, 1080p, 3 HDMI incl HDMI-ARC, component/composite .
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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I'm not sure what the other features have go to do with the TV being Smart but a quick search on Best Buy shows:

Toshiba 55" Class (54.6" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - HDTV Black 55L310U - Best Buy

Dumb Toshiba 55-in, 1080p, 3 HDMI incl HDMI-ARC, component/composite .
I've been very impressed by my older, Toshiba 32" HDTV. The picture on it is still fantastic - no stuck pixels, no color blotches or anything. The picture is still as if it was brand new. Only thing I have had to do was to replace the remote - the old one just quit working. Other than that, it's a great TV. It even has better sound than my 70" 1080p Vizio (of course that's not saying much.)

Love that price too! I may have to consider replacing the 32" with this one in the bed room.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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The other thing I don't love about Smart is that every one has their own version of it. They think they can lock you in for life, this way. Like the WebOS on the LG? Well when you get another TV, are you going to want to have to figure out Samsung's Smart TV? or Sony's?
It is hard to find a 4K TV that isn't Smart.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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The speakers on my Vizio are horrible. I can't hear half of the stuff said.
This is specifically about dialogue? Had the same problem with my Vizio, thought I was going deaf. Lot's of metal blasting through the Sony Walkman here too.

There is setting in the audio called SMS or something like that. I think it's for filtering out loud commercials. In any event it also made the dialogue very difficult to hear.

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Old 06-30-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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When a Smart TV gets stupid, it has probably become infected by Operator Error.
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