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Old 03-10-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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add they want that billion a year profit free box rentals. Ever since they change it, it has hurt alot of people that benefit the locals for free.
That is a slight overstatement.

CableCard technology became mandatory on 1 July 2007 by FCC rules. Prior to that date, digital cable could be decoded with devices like the Motorola DCT700. Some people still have such devices in their home as the cable companies could keep united deployed that were functioning inside someone's home by July 2007. These devices cost the cable companies $80 apiece and have now generated hundreds of dollars in rentals.
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CableCard cost consumers about $1 billion over the eight years after they were mandated, according to industry statistics. Regulators forced box makers to engineer all devices to take the CableCard technology whether it was used or not. In theory the CableCard would create a market for secondary set top manufacturers like TiVo, but roughly 80-90 set top boxes were rented for every one that was purchased.
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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I have Time Warner, now Spectrum here in Columbus Ohio. Still get the old channels directly thru the cable, 80 or more channels, old square TVs can still connect and function without a box. I am wondering how long the old channels will last.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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I have Time Warner, now Spectrum here in Columbus Ohio. Still get the old channels directly thru the cable, 80 or more channels, old square TVs can still connect and function without a box. I am wondering how long the old channels will last.
weird, as they moved all our locals and few channeled into the digital slot so nothing is free coming in without a box. We have TWC as well in austin. Got to be a licencing deal.


Cablecards are in the box, and i have one for my tivo services. The draw back is the 2 way communication. so no on demand. Not a big deal to me. i use it on a HD homerun for my HTPC at home.. Still a issue to force us to use their box as they limit the 3rd party from making anything new.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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That is a slight overstatement.

CableCard technology became mandatory on 1 July 2007 by FCC rules. Prior to that date, digital cable could be decoded with devices like the Motorola DCT700. Some people still have such devices in their home as the cable companies could keep united deployed that were functioning inside someone's home by July 2007. These devices cost the cable companies $80 apiece and have now generated hundreds of dollars in rentals.
http://hdtvsales.ca/images/P/dct700-03.jpg

CableCard cost consumers about $1 billion over the eight years after they were mandated, according to industry statistics. Regulators forced box makers to engineer all devices to take the CableCard technology whether it was used or not. In theory the CableCard would create a market for secondary set top manufacturers like TiVo, but roughly 80-90 set top boxes were rented for every one that was purchased.

Still a box that has to be rented, another fee for services. Like modems. You can go buy a modem but you cant just go out and buy a cablebox. Not that many vendors are willing to do this in fear of some thing.. Only thing you can get are tuners, but some require a pc to be used like the HD homerun or windows media center. But other than tivo, what do you have that doesnt require a pc? and just needs a cable MMC
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Old 03-15-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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Still a box that has to be rented, another fee for services. Like modems. You can go buy a modem but you cant just go out and buy a cablebox. Not that many vendors are willing to do this in fear of some thing.. Only thing you can get are tuners, but some require a pc to be used like the HD homerun or windows media center. But other than tivo, what do you have that doesnt require a pc? and just needs a cable MMC

The FCC states that set top boxes cost consumers $20 billion a year in rental fees. Consumers are not getting their money’s worth because, while the cost of televisions, computers, and mobile phones all have declined by about 90% since 1994, the price of set-top boxes has gone up about 185 percent.

On 1 July 2007 the FCC-compelled obligation required cable operators to include an unnecessary piece of hardware (i.e., a CableCARD) in the set-top boxes they provide to their customers. The FCC believed that without this requirement that cable companies would not provide adequate support to third party retailers like TiVo.

On 1 January 2015 this requirement was removed, but the cable companies must still support CableCards. AFAIK there is no stampede by cable companies to abandon their CableCard devices that are being leased.

SlingTV was launched only a few weeks later, and perhaps it could not have been launched until the FCC lifted the integration ban.
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