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Old 03-07-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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Are there any US cable systems that don't require a box?

I had Comcast with no box until 2009, when they said you have to have a box or you would only get channels 2-34.

I moved in 2010 and had Charter with no box. In 2014 Charter said you have to have a box or you'd get nothing.

(You have to have a box to get HD channels and the guide of course.)
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Mount Laurel
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I believe Comcast still allow cableCard. The problem with cablecard is that it's a one way communication. Features like X1 will not work. I used cablecard for my TV 10+ years ago. Even back then, it was not popular and you had to ask for it if your TV can support it.
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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Windows Media Center supports Cablecard if you can get a adpator for it. If i am not mistaking, most if not all cable tv providers move the free tv stuff to digital and need a DCT to pick those up. They will not charge you for this box if you just prefer basic locals, but might charge you like 10 bucks for the services. But yes, you will need some box from the cable company to get anything now, some tvs have built in tuners but need a cablecard to work.
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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I was trying to clarify if no one in the whole US can get cable with no box (and no cablecard).
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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Why do some people prefer to a cablecard to a cable box?
I can see some want to feed TV into their computers. But wouldn't most people want to feed it into a TV?

Also can't you feed a cable box signal into the computer?
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Diaspora
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Why do some people prefer to a cablecard to a cable box?
I can see some want to feed TV into their computers. But wouldn't most people want to feed it into a TV?

Also can't you feed a cable box signal into the computer?
You're mixing technologies. Depending on one's cable company one would use a portal to watch TV on their computer. So if one has Xfinity then one does:

https://www.xfinity.com/support/cabl...-tv-streaming/
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Old 03-08-2017, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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I remember when cable was in infancy with 36 channels and a 'cable ready' TV. No box was needed. After that, a box with 12 buttons with levels 1-2-3 and TV on channel 3
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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Every cable company (monopoly) requires some decoder to get channels. their are a few exceptions. some are broadcast free but very very small block due to DRM reasons. But yes you do need a box period. No way around it
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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Why do some people prefer to a cablecard to a cable box?
I can see some want to feed TV into their computers. But wouldn't most people want to feed it into a TV?

Also can't you feed a cable box signal into the computer?
It is possible to receive an analog signal into a TV without a box. Since 2005 televisions sold in the USA were required to have a QAM tuner which would allow them to tun in digital signals. At the time cable companies were required by the FCC to leave broadcast network signals unencrypted so that they could be received directly by the television. That law was changed in October 2012 to permit the signals to be encrypted.

Essentially today all major cable networks have (1) a digital signal, (2) all channels encrypted. There is little or no advantage to the cable company to send an unencrypted signal. Personally, I believe that the cable companies should leave local news station unencrypted so that you can put a small TV in your kitchen or bath without a box. But no cable company agrees that this minor courtesy is worth extending.
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Old 03-09-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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It is possible to receive an analog signal into a TV without a box. Since 2005 televisions sold in the USA were required to have a QAM tuner which would allow them to tun in digital signals. At the time cable companies were required by the FCC to leave broadcast network signals unencrypted so that they could be received directly by the television. That law was changed in October 2012 to permit the signals to be encrypted.

Essentially today all major cable networks have (1) a digital signal, (2) all channels encrypted. There is little or no advantage to the cable company to send an unencrypted signal. Personally, I believe that the cable companies should leave local news station unencrypted so that you can put a small TV in your kitchen or bath without a box. But no cable company agrees that this minor courtesy is worth extending.
add they want that billion a year profit free box rentals. Ever since they change it, it has hurt alot of people that benefit the locals for free.
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