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Old 05-09-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ > Raleigh, NC
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This is one of the reasons we never buy top of the line, all the bells and whistles, stuff. Not appliances, phones, TV, computers, mattresses, cars. None of it. All midline stuff, sometimes even a little below that.

When it breaks, we replace. Fixing it just means it's gonna break again. Except cars - the rule there, usually, is ten years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.

I still miss the maytag washer and dryer I bough at a scratch and dent sale in 1991. I heard from the folks that bought my house in 2012 that the washer still worked but the dryer died in 2010.
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This might not sound like a direct answer, but invest in a whole house surge protector. The changes from electro-mechanical components, which are robust, to electronic control circuitry, which can be damaged by surges, means more failures.
Just out of curiosity, why don't major appliances have a built-in surge protector?
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Old 05-09-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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This is one of the reasons we never buy top of the line, all the bells and whistles, stuff. Not appliances, phones, TV, computers, mattresses, cars. None of it. All midline stuff, sometimes even a little below that.

When it breaks, we replace. Fixing it just means it's gonna break again. Except cars - the rule there, usually, is ten years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.

I still miss the maytag washer and dryer I bough at a scratch and dent sale in 1991. I heard from the folks that bought my house in 2012 that the washer still worked but the dryer died in 2010.
Smart move. The one that gets me scratching my head are the people who buy the super-expensive dishwashers. Have they ever actually looked INSIDE where the cleaning is being done to see if there is any meaningful difference? Unless there is a crew of hamsters with scrub brushes hidden inside that I'm unaware of, they all use the same concepts and designs for cleaning.
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Old 05-09-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity, why don't major appliances have a built-in surge protector?
These days most things do. It's pretty cheap, at most a few bucks, to build it in to a power supply. It can literally be a small device that connects across the line voltage power cord - same thing as used in a surge suppressing power strip.
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Old 05-09-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity, why don't major appliances have a built-in surge protector?
Already answered in a post that also describes what was routinely in facilities that cannot have damage - even 100 years ago.
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Best protection at each appliance is already inside. Concern is for rare transients (maybe once every seven years) that might overwhelm that protection.
Now, if a protector is too close to appliances and too far from earth ground, then existing, robust, internal protection may even be compromised.

BTW, protectors across the line do not protect from the other and typically destructive surge. The words protector and protection describe two completely different solutions. Never assume an appliance with effective protection contains protectors.
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Old 05-09-2017, 06:44 PM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston/Tricity
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I don't know any appliance that would last only 4 years - except someone buys a cheap crap made somewhere in Asia.
If you buy quality AND take care of it, it will last.
I have some appliances I wish would give up on me, so I could buy something a little newer, a little better, a little sooner than is necessary
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Smart move. The one that gets me scratching my head are the people who buy the super-expensive dishwashers. Have they ever actually looked INSIDE where the cleaning is being done to see if there is any meaningful difference? Unless there is a crew of hamsters with scrub brushes hidden inside that I'm unaware of, they all use the same concepts and designs for cleaning.
I feel that way about clothes washers. Last one I bought they put the pressure on to sell me one with well over 20 settings, but I held fast because -- even as a 67 year old -- I've never used more than a couple of basic settings. Some people fall for anything.
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Old 05-10-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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I think they do all those washer settings only because they can, and marketing thinks some suckers will buy into a "need" that should not exist.

Think of it: 3 wash settings x 3 wash temps x 3 rinse temps x 2 spin settings. That's 54 combinations right there! And separate switches are sooo hard to do...
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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Turned out that the dryer needed a $30 part, the heat sensor, and it cost another $140 to diagnose and replace. The dishwasher needed a new fill float valve unit, all one piece, large and over $400 to replace part and labor. I've already taken it out to the porch and bought a new one to be delivered next week. The tech recommended Whirpool, which according to the sticker on it, is made in the USA. We found one on sale for almost $300 off, so it cost less than repairing the old one.
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