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Old 06-08-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Mass
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Free Over-the-Air TV Is Going to Get Better - Consumer Reports

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Old 06-08-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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4k TV? There are 13 prime channels in my area. 7 are 1080 and 6 are only 720 with a few dozen 480 SD channels. I can see another tax payer subsidized converter box scam in the near future.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Mass
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I won't buy another set until they have the new tuner!
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Des Moines Metro
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4k TV? There are 13 prime channels in my area. 7 are 1080 and 6 are only 720 with a few dozen 480 SD channels. I can see another tax payer subsidized converter box scam in the near future.
Good point! I can see that happening, too.

I can get 19 channels over-the-air in Des Moines for free right now. I'm sure that's driving someone crazy who sees that as lost revenue.
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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Thought somebody might find interesting.
That is interesting, but frankly I don't believe it. Advertisers use as one metric CPM (cost per thousand viewers).

Average broadcast TV CPM ranges between about $10 - $23/ per thousand viewers. CPM view count is typically how many people are watching the program (tv show) not always a measurement of how many people are watching the commercial.

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The move to ATSC 3.0 is voluntary for broadcasters. That wasn't the case with the DTV transition, when they were given a firm deadline for stopping analog broadcasts. This time around, each company gets to decide when to make the move—or not.
While the DTV transition was mandatory, the broadcasters were still sweet on the deal, not because the signal was better, but because they could now air subchannels (standard definition channels that mostly show reruns). The revenue from the subchannels made it still profitable to swtich to DTV.

Better signals will not automatically translate into more profit from higher advertising rates, especially since the older TV's will not be able to receive the signal (even at a lower resolution).

Broadcasters will find it very difficult to switch to a newer format without a gauranteed profit.

Now some new stations might develop around the new ATSC 3.0 standard, but not for pure commercial rates of $10 - $23/ per thousand viewers. Basically they will have to sell you the signal.

The profit margin for selling TV shows is much higher than financing them through commercials.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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What tuner does current 4k TV have? If it isn't a 3.0 type, doesn't that mean that the 4k TV will not be able to receive 4k broadcast TV?
Since the switch is voluntary, what happens to a 4k 3.0 TV owner in a market where some of the channel owners don't switch? Will they be able to receive the HD signal? What happens to all the SD 480 sub channels?
What percentage of TV's are still tube type analog using a digi converter box?
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Old 06-15-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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And most of that is not at all legal. Gears TV, Showbox, Cinema Box....
You do know this, right?
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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And most of that is not at all legal. Gears TV, Showbox, Cinema Box....
You do know this, right?
Jesus man, what are you the content police?
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Over react much? "Jesus man"? Acting like I'm yelling at you....

C-D has little tolerance for even remotely illegal activities.
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