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12-04-2008, 01:22 PM
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The reason is definitely not hurricanes. I can tell you that. The reasons Whataburger is moving to San Antonio are pretty much the same reason why AT&T (a much larger and more important company) moved to Dallas.
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Source? I'm curious to read what you are basing your doubt of the publicly-stated reasons.
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12-04-2008, 02:00 PM
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What is that supposed to mean?
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It means what it means. It's hard to attract top notch talent to cities like Corpus and areas like the Valley. What is there in Corpus? Does it have world class museums like Houston? Does it have an incredible nightlife scene like Austin? Does it have the River Walk? Corpus has very little to offer. It has been stuck in neutral for a very long time. Let's be honest, Corpus has been talked up as the "next big city in Texas" for 25 years. In that regards, it reminds me of the Valley. The Valley and Corpus have this in common: non-forward thinking leadership that Austin politicians do not take seriously. Read a Texas Monthly when they rate the worst politicians. They are always from Corpus, the Valley and Laredo.
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12-04-2008, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowie
Source? I'm curious to read what you are basing your doubt of the publicly-stated reasons.
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Do you honestly believe the reasons are hurricanes? Do you see companies leaving Houston??? It isn't because of hurricanes, but the CEO having no attachment to Corpus and wanting to get out. Same reasons with AT&T leaving SA.
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12-04-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlow
Yes, HEB moved too. And so did the Omni Hotel corporation. You can't get a flight out of CC without stopping in Houston or Dallas and there's a shortage of skilled labor. Also, Whataburger says they're moving to get away from hurricanes.
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I don't think you can get a flight out of El Paso with a stop in Dallas or Houston either, on most airlines.
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12-04-2008, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv
It means what it means. It's hard to attract top notch talent to cities like Corpus and areas like the Valley. What is there in Corpus? Does it have world class museums like Houston? Does it have an incredible nightlife scene like Austin? Does it have the River Walk? Corpus has very little to offer. It has been stuck in neutral for a very long time. Let's be honest, Corpus has been talked up as the "next big city in Texas" for 25 years. In that regards, it reminds me of the Valley. The Valley and Corpus have this in common: non-forward thinking leadership that Austin politicians do not take seriously. Read a Texas Monthly when they rate the worst politicians. They are always from Corpus, the Valley and Laredo.
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Does Austin have a beach like Corpus? Does San Antonio have a beautiful downtown marina like Corpus? Does Houston have some of the best fishing in the country like Corpus? Corpus Christi has plenty to offer. And yes we have a great Art Museum, Symphony, Ballet. Everything you would find in a larger city. Not sure how you can say Corpus has nothing to offer. Some people just have their priorities all wrong.
I feel like Texans don't appreciate Corpus Christi enough. When people from out of state visit, they can't believe what we have here. They love it. In fact there's been an influx of transplants from California in recent years. They've realized they can get the relatively same lifestyle for a fraction of the cost. And I'm sorry, but you can't even begin to put Corpus Christi into the same category as the Valley. Corpus is more progressive than most people think. It's a shame the rest of the state doesn't open their eyes....Then again, do we really want people to move here who think having a Starbucks on every corner and 2 hour traffic jams is the definition of a great city? I sure don't.
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12-04-2008, 07:27 PM
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Does Austin have a beach like Corpus? Does San Antonio have a beautiful downtown marina like Corpus? Does Houston have some of the best fishing in the country like Corpus? Corpus Christi has plenty to offer. And yes we have a great Art Museum, Symphony, Ballet. Everything you would find in a larger city. Not sure how you can say Corpus has nothing to offer. Some people just have their priorities all wrong.
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Let's see here. Austin doesn't have a beach like Corpus, but it does have the Hill Country and Lake Travis (as well as other lakes in the area) for recreation. San Antonio's Downtown has a beautiful Riverwalk down the middle of it. Houston has some good fishing and seafood on the SE side (Seabrook, Kemah, Texas City, etc.).
And it doesn't appear to be too many people moving to Corpus:
http://enterprise.star-telegram.com/...ick=&action=bg
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http://recenter.tamu.edu/data/popm00/pcbsa18580.html
^^Look at the domestic migration.
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12-04-2008, 09:34 PM
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[quote=Angel713;6427572]Let's see here. Austin doesn't have a beach like Corpus, but it does have the Hill Country and Lake Travis (as well as other lakes in the area) for recreation. San Antonio's Downtown has a beautiful Riverwalk down the middle of it. Houston has some good fishing and seafood on the SE side (Seabrook, Kemah, Texas City, etc.).
And it doesn't appear to be too many people moving to Corpus:
Let's see here. Corpus has a lake and a river as well. And Seabrook? Kemah? Texas City? Did Houston annex these towns? What do they have to do with Houston?
And the links you posted? I think I'll wait to see the 2010 census. Regardless of what those links say, a large number of the new homes being built within the city are California transplants...and that comes directly from the Corpus Christi Realtors Association. I don't think they have a reason to lie about something like that.
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12-04-2008, 09:43 PM
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Let's see here. Corpus has a lake and a river as well. And Seabrook? Kemah? Texas City? Did Houston annex these towns? What do they have to do with Houston?
And the links you posted? I think I'll wait to see the 2010 census. Regardless of what those links say, a large number of the new homes being built within the city are California transplants...and that comes directly from the Corpus Christi Realtors Association. I don't think they have a reason to lie about something like that.
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It does? Houston has a lake also. And no, Houston didn't annex those towns, but the city limits border them and they are apart of the Houston metro area. But, since you want to get technical, how about the Clear Lake area of Houston? Home to the third largest concentration of pleasure boats in the nation.
And about the links I posted. Both are from the US Census. Facts don't lie. If you could, please post the numbers that the "Corpus Christi Realtors Association" has posted. I'd love to see them.
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12-04-2008, 09:47 PM
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As a past resident of Clear Lake, it became Harris County (Houston) in the late 80's, early 90's.
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12-04-2008, 09:57 PM
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Did you happen to read the notes at the bottom of the page? It says info. is from 2000-2005 and estimates (key word "estimates") are based on only those listed as exemptions on tax returns. That's credible data.
NOTES
This map displays county-to-county migration data for 2000-2005 from the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. The IRS estimates are based on year-to-year changes of address on U.S. tax returns. All figures include only include people listed as exemptions on returns, so totals will be less than population. Because the IRS does not disclose small county flows because of privacy concerns, the county-to-county details will not add up to totals.
Sorry, I don't have charts and graphs to show you, but my information comes from an interview with a local real estate expert from the realtor's association. It was on a local televison newscast. I assure you it's a credible source and I would trust info. from realtors (the actual people selling the homes) before I would trust an outdated "estimate" from the IRS.
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