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Old 06-27-2012, 11:24 PM
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You know something? I don't get the point of the OP here.

Do you honestly believe that just because certain "levels" of people can now afford to pay passage on those grotesque floating food bins that that's the reason that levels of personal safety have decreased? Do you really think that some of the crimes that you describe are specific to the "lower classes?"



I'm sorry to have to break it you, but people of these types exist in all "levels" of society.
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It would be interesting to see a chart of violent and non-violent crimes by neighborhood - the neighborhoods selected being by average income.

I think Regent has a world cruise coming up, the lowest price of which is in the seventy thousands per person. I think you might have a different incedent and type of crime on that cruise compared to a less costly cruise.

It might not be nice, but I think some neighborhoods in New York do have higher crime than others and a person could separate these by income.
Lower income people have higher crime rates and you're on the right website to verify it. Just for fun, compare some Los Angeles suburbs. When the word gets around that cruise ship passengers are easy targets and the ship an easy environment you may expect certain people to come for the sole purpose of crime.

I suspect that criminals on 70k cruises would be strictly of the white collar variety. They're probably intelligent and interesting people, likely very charming; just don't give them any money until you reach port and check out the deal.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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I wonder how many of the same people who commit crimes in urban 'hoods are the same ones who make life miserable for the "upper classes" on cruise ships.

Although I agree the cruise ship crime is on the increase, I'm not convinced that it has to do with income levels of the passengers. Having lived in cruise country for the majority of my life, I've seen some pretty shady characters among those who'd hesitate to dine with the...less fortunate.

White collar crime....pfffft. There are as many drunks, druggies, child molesters and wife beaters among the...upper levels as anywhere else. The cruise companies cover a lot of this stuff up, by the way, because they don't want bad publicity.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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Sorry, you won't see me on a cruise any time, ever...even if I could afford one. I have been on several, and found it too be like living in NYC...constant people, crowds, and yes, scary...one guy, was like a stalker...he kept "finding" me...it was creepy, and who could I report this too? Basically, no one. He was overly friendly, found my room, was always trying to buy me drinks...he finally got the message, and started to stalk another woman, sadly, a young girl, too naive to realize what a predator he was...but, I was not her Mama...so...
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Lower income people have higher crime rates and you're on the right website to verify it. Just for fun, compare some Los Angeles suburbs. When the word gets around that cruise ship passengers are easy targets and the ship an easy environment you may expect certain people to come for the sole purpose of crime.

I suspect that criminals on 70k cruises would be strictly of the white collar variety. They're probably intelligent and interesting people, likely very charming; just don't give them any money until you reach port and check out the deal.
Yes, and wear your swatch and costume jewelry, too.
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