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Old 06-24-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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With the growing popularity and low prices of cruises, you sure will come into contact with levels of society, you have never even seen, much less dined with.
That can include thieves, drug dealers, drug addicts, alcoholics, sexual offenders, spouse abusers, child abusers, con men and women and everything from organized crime members to petty career criminals. There is no background check in order to get a cruise ticket. Remember that.

Cruise Ship Rapes - Child Cruise Ship Rapes - Cruise Ship Passenger Rapes - Crew Rapes
Cruise Ship Sex Offenders - Child Molesters - Rapists - Child Pornography
There are bed bugs, doctors sued for malpractice, food poisoning, missing passengers/murders, sex assault etc.
Although you boarded a ship in a US port doesnít mean that you are protected by our justice system. Shipboard crimes sometimes fall into a "no man's land" of law enforcement. Reporting a crime on board a cruise ship doesn't mean anything will be done or that the crime will ever be investigated.
Before you decide to take a cruise, please read those very important safety tips:
Cruise Bruise - Cruise Safety Rules - Cruise Dos And Don'ts - Cruise Ship Personal Safety Tips
Crime on Cruise Ships | RAINN | Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network
and make sure you check on the cruise ratings.


A retired Phoenix businessman who's daughter mysteriously disappeared on an Alaskan cruise tried to get a federal legislation to provide info about crimes reported on cruise ships. It supposed to include info about the deaths, sexual assaults, thefts, missing persons etc. However the bill was changed before passing and now provides even less info instead of more.
Law shields industry on cruise-ship crime information
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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Thank you for posting this.
It is easy to think you are on a huge vacation with a bunch of interesting friends, but we should also remember that many cruise ship employees are not very well paid and come from cultures in which values are different.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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^^^ true, but also fellow passengers falls into those categories.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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Default Your fellow passengers may not be that innocent

It has become routine to blame poorly paid crew members for this and that. However, on our trans-Atlantic in November from Venice to FLL on HAL's Nieuw Amsterdam, we had a crime problem -- due to passengers. How do we know this? Because such a startling announcement was made by the cruise director on the public address system after the library was broken into overnight.
The CD did not waffle on fixing the blame, causing me to believe that there was actual footage from cameras in the library, where the public access computers are located. I had my Kindle stolen from the pool area, and an elderly woman swiped into her handbag all the trivia prizes while the trivia contest was underway!
So? ?The fact that you are having fun does not mean that you are isolated from the realities of life.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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Just because you are on a cruise ship and in an enclosed environment does not mean you are safe and everyone is one big happy family. Cruise ships are like small floating cities (towns). Just as there are all kinds of people in a town, there are all kinds on a cruise ship. I have been on 4 cruises and it never ceases to amaze me how many children I see roaming around without their parents supervision. These parents have no clue who could be lurking around watching and waiting for the opportunity to grab their child yet they allow them to wander about unsupervised. The same thing for teenagers. I have seen so many 14 and 15 yr old girls (that look 18 - 21) and boys wandering about late at night without an adult chaperone. It's just scary. Even adults need to be aware of their surroundings and not become an easy target.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:36 PM
 
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You know something? I don't get the point of the OP here.

Do you honestly believe that just because certain "levels" of people can now afford to pay passage on those grotesque floating food bins that that's the reason that levels of personal safety have decreased? Do you really think that some of the crimes that you describe are specific to the "lower classes?"

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With the growing popularity and low prices of cruises, you sure will come into contact with levels of society, you have never even seen, much less dined with.
That can include thieves, drug dealers, drug addicts, alcoholics, sexual offenders, spouse abusers, child abusers, con men and women and everything from organized crime members to petty career criminals. There is no background check in order to get a cruise ticket. Remember that.
I'm sorry to have to break it you, but people of these types exist in all "levels" of society.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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You know something? I don't get the point of the OP here.

Do you honestly believe that just because certain "levels" of people can now afford to pay passage on those grotesque floating food bins that that's the reason that levels of personal safety have decreased? Do you really think that some of the crimes that you describe are specific to the "lower classes?"



I'm sorry to have to break it you, but people of these types exist in all "levels" of society.
I was just going to point this out.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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I met three women who were on a cruise/land tour in Alaska, and they told me how they'd saved for years to be able to afford the trip. Some Moderator cut: see comment would probably consider them of a "lower level" because they were working class types without much money.

I would have dined with these ladies any day over Moderator cut: see comment some. They were charming. Moderator cut: see comment

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Old 06-27-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Default Low-life cruisers

Interestingly, some of our fellow cruisers on last November's crime-plagued Nieuw Amsterdam voyage blamed "lower level" cruisers for crimes. How do I know this? Because they said so in postings on another site.
This is how their thinking went: Because of the oversupply on the Mediterranean, many trans-Atlantics last fall had their prices slashed after the final-payment deadline. In the case of the Nieuw Amsterdam it was possible to buy a balcony on a 17-day cruise from Venice to FLL for under $700. IIR. This, according to their thinking, introduced a bad element on the cruise! (I always suspected the bad element wanted balconies cheap!)
It was pointed out that someone taking advantage of such low, low prices may have had to buy a more expensive air ticket, which would have canceled any savings. Unless they took light-rail or bus to Venice, which in certain Baltimore neighborhoods are blamed for bringing the bad element in.
Opportunities breed crime. But I, for one, think the price of cruises has nothing to do with criminality, certainly not on long cruises involving intercontinental flights.
Blaming the incidents on young people was impossible becaue I think we had 4 people under 21 on the cruise, where the average age was 69, according to the ship's captain. Did that have anything to do with the price of the eggs?

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Old 06-27-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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It would be interesting to see a chart of violent and non-violent crimes by neighborhood - the neighborhoods selected being by average income.

I think Regent has a world cruise coming up, the lowest price of which is in the seventy thousands per person. I think you might have a different incedent and type of crime on that cruise compared to a less costly cruise.

It might not be nice, but I think some neighborhoods in New York do have higher crime than others and a person could separate these by income.
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