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Old 01-20-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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$5.2 million a year to Haiti free and clear without expense (which, unfortunetly, probably lines the pockets of their local politicians).
Yep. To me that is a real concern and something i'm a little fearful of in this relief effort. That any money filtered through their government is going to be come out looking a lot smaller than it did when it arrived.

RCI has also worked with various american groups to allocate money for general infrastructure improvements to haiti

Once again, i'm sure RCI will benefit greatly from those improvements - but it isn't a zero sum game where RCI and Haiti can't both benefit from foreign investment into infrastructure
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Old 01-20-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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the immediate, initial response was that it was too soon. but thinking it out, it is, at this moment, one of Haiti's main sources of income that isn't foreign aid. and Haiti needs every single penny it can get. plus, I'm worried what would happen if they stopped and Labadee fell of the map of people's consciousness. sure, it doesn't really feel like Haiti (though, as mentioned, a lot of these Caribbean resort feel little like the island they reside on) but it is and they are receiving money from these cruises (how much of this money goes to the people and not to the corrupt gov't is sadly up to debate).

I think it depends on how the people who take these cruises act. will they try to ignore the suffering on the other side of the fence and continue sunbathing as if they could be any where else on earth? or will they, despite being on vacation, still acknowledge the chaos and do something about it, even if that something is just toning down on the festivities, having a quick moment of silence, or paying the local vendors more. maybe those taking a cruise there could bring donations with them (read the cruise line itself is already bringing over supplies). having said all that, if the dock is needed for foreign aid to get through, they should obviously close the dock to cruises. but for now, there are at least a few Haitians working and not suffering, so no point in taking that away from them (even if the company gave them time off w/ pay, maybe they want to work to keep their minds busy)

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Old 01-20-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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They Haitians get nothing from Labadee. That island is owned by Royal Caribbean and might as well not even be part of Haiti. There are armed guards blocking all access and the only people benefiting are the execs at RC. Sure, they hire Haitian workers, but the country as a whole gets nothing from having tourists there.
You are wrong. It's not an island. It's a beach on the island of Hispanola which is comprised of two countries, haiti and the Dominican Republic. RCCL pays port fees to the government of Haiti to use it.
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:09 PM
 
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if there was a major disaster in Freeport Bahama, would it be out of line for Disney to stop visiting Castaway Cay?
Labadee is removed from PaP, and for many years people didn't even know it was Haiti. Years ago when people didn't have access to world wide information, it was somewhat billed as being it's own land or part of DR when political tensions in Haiti made it best to go that way.
Since Labadee is insulated from Haiti, stopping visits will not serve any good. When this is all ovder, Labadee may be the only tourist income for a long time.
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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if the dock is needed for foreign aid to get through, they should obviously close the dock to cruises.
The cruise line doesn't dock, unless that has changed in recent years. The ship anchors offshore and unloads the passengers on motorized launches to a very small dock on the beach.
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