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Old 07-04-2013, 05:45 AM
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19 firefighters killed in Arizona blaze; 'Our entire crew was lost' - CNN.com

Nineteen fire fighters died. The odd thing, I tried to find this information on the news, and every channel was discussing the Zimmerman trial. Flags are flown at half staff, in remembrance for these young men.
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:53 AM
Location: Canada
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So sad, and I feel so bad for the guy who was their "look out". The wind suddenly shifted and he couldn't warn them fast enough. He was the only one from the specially trained group who survived. He must feel terrible.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:17 AM
Location: Washington D.C.
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oh yeah plenty has been said about it when it happened and a few days after. So you mustve missed all the initial coverage
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:22 AM
Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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I got a personal e-mail about it. We knew the parents of one of the men. It makes me sad that such brave men died.
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:13 PM
Location: Slaughter Creek, Travis County
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I hope out of this tragedy that we can see advancements in technology to protect wildland firefighters with improved, reliable technology for dealing with weather changes. Structure firefighting has the benefit of a fixed building. Wildland operations are so weather dependent.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:13 PM
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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My thoughts and prayers for the families.
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:51 AM
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The reports I've read are all by journalists who want to make hay out of this tragic incident. My inclination (from experience) is that even if the high, shifty winds were not expected, there were any number of other well-known high-risk factors related to the site and weather conditions that either some leader(s) screwed up and/or these guys under-estimated the potential danger? Was the threat to other human lives really so great to warrant taking the risk?
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:40 PM
Location: galaxy far far away
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There's another active thread on this topic in the Arizona Forum
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and there's also one in the Prescott, AZ Forum

Frihed89 - your comment has been quite extensively discussed in the second forum above. You may be able to find some answers and quite a few news links on both threads. Even with some of the information they had from the weather service, the wind shift was so rapid that when the 20th firefighter (the only survivor) turned to warn his colleagues, when he turned back his station was already engulfed in flames. It was a weather anomaly and no amount of Monday Morning quarterbacking is going to give us the full story until the fire is completely contained and the investigators can do their jobs. Prescott is a very small community and we are all crushed by the loss of these brave men who were our friends, loved ones, colleagues, and townspeople.
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