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Old 09-05-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Who said it was violent? I presume most people realize this was statutory rape based on her age.
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It seems like some people have the notion that it's not rape unless a masked criminal jumps out from behind a tree and drags the victim into an alley at gunpoint. In this case, rape has occurred because of the age of the victim and the coercion by an authority figure.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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What part of "knowing more about the law" would lead to a 30-day sentence for RAPE of a minor?
Statutory rape is not the same as forcible rape and certainly should not be punished as though it is. Whether 30 days is enough can be argued.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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It seems like some people have the notion that it's not rape unless a masked criminal jumps out from behind a tree and drags the victim into an alley at gunpoint. In this case, rape has occurred because of the age of the victim and the coercion by an authority figure.
There is no evidence of coercion. The "coercion" is simply magicked into existence by the law.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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That's a logical fallacy. You can't just say, "Oh, he did it once. He must have done it lots of other times too." That's just pure speculating and bad scientific practice.
Well obviously he did it at least twice with two different students, plus he got in trouble for being with other young girls while on probation. You are in some serious denial dude.
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Rape is rape. Amazing that this still needs to be spelled out to people.

Statutory rape means, that you were with a person significantly younger, and the relationship had a potential for exploitation. Adults are supposed to know better than to have sex with anyone underage. Hang with people your own age, how difficult is that to understand?

The teacher KNEW this was wrong on every level.
She was 14 years old.
She was a student.

Anyone who wants to defend that a 49 year old man should consumate a sexual relationship with a fourteen year old girl needs some serious help. And should not be around children.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Rape is rape. Amazing that this still needs to be spelled out to people.
No, statutory rape is not forcible rape, no matter how many chic phrases you employ to claim otherwise.

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Statutory rape means, that you were with a person significantly younger, and the relationship had a potential for exploitation. Adults are supposed to know better than to have sex with anyone underage. Hang with people your own age, how difficult is that to understand?
None of that is inconsistent with giving the guy a 30 day sentence.

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Anyone who wants to defend that a 49 year old man should consumate a sexual relationship with a fourteen year old girl needs some serious help. And should not be around children.
The naïveté of the self-righteous has no limits...there are entire countries that have an age of consent of 14 (including Canada until five years ago!)
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: State of Relaxation
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None of that is inconsistent with giving the guy a 30 day sentence.
Apparently the law in the state where it occurred disagrees with you. The judge admitted he hadn't read the law, and made a mistake.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Apparently the law in the state where it occurred disagrees with you. The judge admitted he hadn't read the law, and made a mistake.
If the judge did not have it within his discretion to hand down the sentence he did, someone would've pointed it out before the order was entered.
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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Statutory rape is not the same as forcible rape and certainly should not be punished as though it is. Whether 30 days is enough can be argued.

There's no arguing whether 30 days is enough for a 49 year-old having sex with a 14 year-old.

Statutory rape certainly merits a sentence considerably longer than 30 days. This isn't a 19 year-old sleeping with his 16 year-old girlfriend -- this is an adult male teacher having sex with his 14 year-old student.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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There's no arguing whether 30 days is enough for a 49 year-old having sex with a 14 year-old.

Statutory rape certainly merits a sentence considerably longer than 30 days.
How is that certain? A case could be made for your position, but I don't find it self-evident in the least. We're not living in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia, where a girl's losing her maidenhead makes her a second-class citizen for life.
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