male teacher gets only 30 days for sex with 14 year old student
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Originally Posted by flamingo_pink
But minor is just an artificial concept. It has no intrinsic meaning other than what we define it.
It used to be common for 13 year olds to marry. We've since stopped it, but I assume she could ethically consent back then if she could marry.
Actually, "minor" is a legal concept. Don't believe me? Trying picking up a 14 year-old girl, have sex with her, then take her to the local police department and explain what you've done to her. What will happen next won't be "artificial".
Yes, it used to be common for 13 year-olds to marry. It also used to be common for people to own slaves. We've since stopped that, too.
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Originally Posted by manderly6
What makes Flamingo's posts so scary are his posts in the employment forum that got locked down. Put the two together and it should scare the hell out of anyone.
Don't tell me, let me guess.......he's looking to "employ" an underage call girl?
From the information I have heard about this case, Cherice Morales was *very* mature for her age, looking and acting much older. Apparently, none of the sexual encounters was forced, in fact Morales came back numerous times to enjoy a sexual relationship with Mr. Rambold.
Although he is a teacher and should have used a little more restraint and common sense in dealing with this girl, it is ultimately the MOTHER'S failure at parenting that caused the problem. Fourteen year old children should be supervised and not be given the opportunity to be in a position where they can have sex with a 49 year old man SEVERAL TIMES.
Cherice's mother has a lot of nerve yelling "You people suck" to the judge when, in fact, SHE should have been a better mother and this would have never happened. As for Cherice committing suicide when she was 17, one article I read said that she was a "troubled young woman". Yet another indication that of her parents had invested more time into raising her none of this would have ever happened.
Sentence had more to do with failing to meet the deferred prosecution plea deal on technicalities than the actual crime. That's what he was being sentenced for. Had he not failed the deferred prosecution plan, he wouldn't have spent any time in jail at all.
Interesting. The judge felt like the guy should have a pass, because he went to sex offender treatment....he FAILED the first one for lying! Was caught, kicked out, and went to another program....
I consider sex offender treatment as bogus as a three dollar bill. Sex offenders are liars, manipulative sociopaths. They pretend to buy into the program, and express remorse about their crime. Believe me, the only "remorse" they feel is that they were caught.
They charm and manipulate social workers, and the court system. They pretend to be really nice people who were coerced into a sexual relationship with a child, and while they barely acknowledge their complicity, they make it seem like they were a victim in the entire event.
Congrats judge, you were snowed. Manipulated by this con...how does it feel? And you are not even fourteen years old....
You realize someone who gets drunk and urinates in public while in college is a sex offender, right?
From the information I have heard about this case, Cherice Morales was *very* mature for her age, looking and acting much older. Apparently, none of the sexual encounters was forced, in fact Morales came back numerous times to enjoy a sexual relationship with Mr. Rambold.
Although he is a teacher and should have used a little more restraint and common sense in dealing with this girl, it is ultimately the MOTHER'S failure at parenting that caused the problem. Fourteen year old children should be supervised and not be given the opportunity to be in a position where they can have sex with a 49 year old man SEVERAL TIMES.
Cherice's mother has a lot of nerve yelling "You people suck" to the judge when, in fact, SHE should have been a better mother and this would have never happened. As for Cherice committing suicide when she was 17, one article I read said that she was a "troubled young woman". Yet another indication that of her parents had invested more time into raising her none of this would have ever happened.
20yrsinBranson
Honestly, it's hard to say. There's some people that get great parenting and turn out lousy while others get lousy parenting and turn out great. It's not as simple as it just being a parenting issue. By 14, most of it is on the kid, I'd say. If they had crap parenting up to 14, they might not be as well equipped to handle life. Or they might be better equipped, children who aren't coddled grow up faster by necessity.
Regardless of the parenting skills, the girls responsibility, and everything else, you just don't have sexual relationships with your students. Maybe in college that becomes somewhat acceptable (grad student TA, under grad or professor/lecturer and master's/PhD student) but not in high school.
the irrational responses that i am reading are proof that child molestation will continue in the future. i sincerely pray that these people are simply stirring the pot, but deep down i know the responders are actually some sick puppies. Parents watch your children because there are sexual predators all around us.
Honestly, it's hard to say. There's some people that get great parenting and turn out lousy while others get lousy parenting and turn out great. It's not as simple as it just being a parenting issue. By 14, most of it is on the kid, I'd say. If they had crap parenting up to 14, they might not be as well equipped to handle life. Or they might be better equipped, children who aren't coddled grow up faster by necessity.
Regardless of the parenting skills, the girls responsibility, and everything else, you just don't have sexual relationships with your students. Maybe in college that becomes somewhat acceptable (grad student TA, under grad or professor/lecturer and master's/PhD student) but not in high school.
We've all been guilty of bad judgment at least once in our life. People should not have their lives ruined forever because of it. As a "sex offender" he will never be able to teach again. That's more than enough punishment, if you ask me. Now if the girl had been 7, I'd say "string him up on the closest tree", but the girl was complisent (however you spell that word).
20yrsinBranson
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