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Old 10-02-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Well he was trying to intimidate them first by honking at them and tailgating. It didn't happen so fast where the driver didn't have the time to think about how do I separate myself from them. He's an idiot end of. The bikers were out of line but he kept himself in reach of their wrath. A Range Rover ain't outrunning motorcyclists. Running them over didn't stop them either. He could have just hung back. Nope that didn't run through his head at all. What a turd and I would have sat there and watched him get beat up.
You would of sat there and watched him get beat up? Of course you would. This is not a shock. Cowards usually act that way.
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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Well, apparently the NYC mayor and the police who investigated disagree with you. Very easy to Monday morning quarterback from afar.
You're telling like I care? The justice system is run by imbeciles. Plus any reason why people can push the blame on the minority is what will happen. I'm surprised that sport bikes haven't been banned by any state yet.
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He was honking the horn because the bikers were driving in an agressive and illegal manner putting others and themselves in danger. You being a hard core biker should take off your blind defense of bikers and acknowledge their behavior makes responsible riders look bad. Instead you blindly defend their behavior. Doing so makes you look like one of them, a criminal rider.
Riding aggressively? I would hope you get to see what aggressive riding really is.

Riding a motorcycle in general seems to be more aggression due to the loud noise and improved maneuverability. Were they truly putting others in danger. I guess they were because they were on motorcycles and there were more than 2 of them in half a mile radius. I'm not a hardcore biker but don't tell me what to do. I'm a guy who happens to own 3 motorcycles. Big whoop that doesn't mean I'm a defender of bikers. You're reaching. I'm not blindly defending them. I've never really talked about them. I'm saying that the cager didn't have to put himself in all of this so he gets no sympathy. They didn't pay him any attention. He wanted some attention and he got it.

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That's what most turds do, and you'll be in good company.
Dry your tears. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

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You would of sat there and watched him get beat up? Of course you would. This is not a shock. Cowards usually act that way.
I'm a coward? That's the pot calling the kettle black. I help those who deserve my help. He didn't. I'm not going to help a kid who touches a hot stove who knows that it is hot.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: An Island with a View
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Looks like the SUV driver was panic when he got surrounded by all the bikers. It is understandable considering his kids and wife was inside that SUV, but running over people or bikes to get away wasn’t a good idea. I don’t understand why he didn’t call police when he was brake checked and eventually stopped by one of the bikers, and still didn’t the second time he was stopped. It must be really scary for the SUV driver.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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You're telling like I care? The justice system is run by imbeciles. Plus any reason why people can push the blame on the minority is what will happen. I'm surprised that sport bikes haven't been banned by any state yet.

Riding aggressively? I would hope you get to see what aggressive riding really is.

Riding a motorcycle in general seems to be more aggression due to the loud noise and improved maneuverability. Were they truly putting others in danger. I guess they were because they were on motorcycles and there were more than 2 of them in half a mile radius. I'm not a hardcore biker but don't tell me what to do. I'm a guy who happens to own 3 motorcycles. Big whoop that doesn't mean I'm a defender of bikers. You're reaching. I'm not blindly defending them. I've never really talked about them. I'm saying that the cager didn't have to put himself in all of this so he gets no sympathy. They didn't pay him any attention. He wanted some attention and he got it.


Dry your tears. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.


I'm a coward? That's the pot calling the kettle black. I help those who deserve my help. He didn't. I'm not going to help a kid who touches a hot stove who knows that it is hot.
The fact you call drivers "cagers" and whine about the minority getting blamed, tells me everything I need to know about you and why you could care less.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: DMV
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Looks like the SUV driver was panic when he got surrounded by all the bikers. It is understandable considering his kids and wife was inside that SUV, but running over people or bikes to get away wasn’t a good idea. I don’t understand why he didn’t call police when he was brake checked and eventually stopped by one of the bikers, and still didn’t the second time he was stopped. It must be really scary for the SUV driver.
The reports stated that he called the police before the first incident.

If a group of people surround someone's vehicle how can you avoid hitting people?
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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The fact you call drivers "cagers" and whine about the minority getting blamed, tells me everything I need to know about you and why you could care less.
A driver isn't always a cager. If anyone is whining then it is you. You're the one wanting to make the cager a saint. I would love to know what happened before the video. I'm pretty sure the cage wasn't driving down on the road and then they were viciously attacked by bikers falling from the sky.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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A driver isn't always a cager. If anyone is whining then it is you. You're the one wanting to make the cager a saint. I would love to know what happened before the video. I'm pretty sure the cage wasn't driving down on the road and then they were viciously attacked by bikers falling from the sky.
You are probably correct. We all know that bikers are saints and a guy with his wife and small child is the devil's work.
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Um, no one was KILLED in the video, but you are advocating a murder. Seems you have some screws loose. The driver DID protect himself with his car. Oh and lets play out your silly view of a gun involved. So the driver pulls a gun with his baby and wife in the car and starts shooting at the tons of motorcyclists. You are assuming non of them have a gun. I doubt none of them weren't armed, so then they might shoot back. Hmmm, bullets flying into the SUV with the little kid in there and then a nice shoot out with innocent people in other vehicles that no doubt were shocked to see this mess come upon them. Yeah, buddy, keep living in your little John Wayne fantasy land.

As far as the video, I have a feeling the idiot in the SUV did something to provoke at the beginning, but when it escalates to moron bikers stopping a car, then yeah, all bets are off. He did the right thing by running over the motorcycles and getting the heck out of there. I am surprised he stopped and allowed one of the morons to slam the helmet into the side window like that. I would have thrown it in reverse and ran more over. Sorry, but you have to protect your family and you don't need a gun to do so, just common sense. Keep driving until you see a cop. This was really wild there wasn't a cop anywhere. If I was in a car on that road, I would have called 911 right away. There is no excuse for this selfish behavior. Thankfully no one had a gun and made that situation into some big shootout with others being killed. Instead, no one was killed and people are going to see tomorrow.

I have a CCW permit and have a gun on me quite a bit of the time, this includes carrying while driving my car through Allentown and the surrounding area.

If the situation escalated to someone attempting or actually physically harming myself and or a member of my family someones going to have a hole in their body in order to remove the threat.

Waiting for the police to save you in a situation like that creates the opportunity for the assailant to kill you and or your family. It takes a split second for an assailant to inflict fatal harm whilr the average police response is three minutes in most metropolitan areas.

No thanks I'll take matters into my own hands and deal with the consequences of my actions if it means myself and my family have a better chance at surviving something like this.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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Looks like the SUV driver was panic when he got surrounded by all the bikers. It is understandable considering his kids and wife was inside that SUV, but running over people or bikes to get away wasn’t a good idea. I don’t understand why he didn’t call police when he was brake checked and eventually stopped by one of the bikers, and still didn’t the second time he was stopped. It must be really scary for the SUV driver.
He did call the police, as has already been stated. This all happened in like a minute. Brake checked - he hits back wheel of bike-Rover immediately surrounded by bikers smashing his car with their helmets and slashing his tires-he takes off in panic, running over bikers in process-they catch him easily on slashed tires, smash his window, pull him out and beat him.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Exactly that's why he is so stupid. This was easily avoidable. Just pull over or get off at the next exit and get back on.
The bikers were blocking the car from moving, they laid their bikes in front of the car so he could not move forward, sideways, anywhere! The bikers started aggressively attacking the SUV. Think about a CHILD being with you in this situation. Hundreds of bikers surrounding you, honestly what would you do?
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