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Old 12-06-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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no, just no, look at the state of S.A. today and that godforsaken economy compared to when the "oppsresive minority" was in power.
Anyone besides me find recognize the dark irony of so-called freedom lovers who use economic development as the yardstick for measuring liberty.

Gee... life was so much better when black South Africans had to carry a passbook where ever they went, when the only could live in government sanctioned "townships," couldn't vote, couldn't hold elected office, in short were legally prohibited for pursuing (clears throat) certain unalienable rights Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. But yeah, GDP was rocking along!!



(actually it wasn't but I have neither the time of patience to get into that).
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Forty five years ago I got paid $110 a month to fight communists. Why should I mourn one now?
Yeah, that's what they told us. Frankly we were vastly underpaid and exceptionally foolish for taking the job.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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I don't usually hold adoration for public figures but this man was a true inspiration for all of us to be better . . . do better . . live a life of integrity, consideration, and compassion for all people, not just a certain group.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Never understood the big deal about Mandela. Yeah he lead a freedom and equality movement. Yeah he went to jail for it. So?
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Never understood the big deal about Mandela. Yeah he lead a freedom and equality movement. Yeah he went to jail for it. So?
If it has to be spelled out for you, you'll never understand.

So, who are your heroes? Do you have any?
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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Yeah he lead a freedom and equality movement.
Yes, you are quite right such trivialities that freedom and equality thing.










....Yes Sheldon, that was sarcasm.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Necklacing
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Yes, you are quite right such trivialities that freedom and equality thing.




....Yes Sheldon, that was sarcasm.
Probably not black or ever had the **** kicked out of him just for being black, or having t kiss the *** of the small minority of white people who ruled his country. Or maybe never had his child gunned down by these racist white people?

Just a guess.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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Everyone born since at least 1947 has been alive during apartheid.
Our local weekly posted an article about Mandela's death with the following comment:
Mandela was South Africa's first post-apartheid president. True.

Given the obvious import of that statement, an obvious question is:

Who will be Palestine's first post-apartheid president?

If this question makes anyone scratch their heads in wonder, following is a link to an excellent review by Chris Hedges of Max Blumenthal's book Goliath:

Imploding Myth of Israel Chris Hedges | Veterans News Now
The Jewish Press Why Israel is NOT an Apartheid State

Nelson Mandela and Zionism | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika formerly the anthem of defiance now recognized as one of the most beautiful and moving national anthems, a song that I think is most appropriate to acknowledge the passing of Nelson "Mandiba" Mandela



Soweto Gospel Choir - Nkosi Sikelel (South African National Anthem) - YouTube
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