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Old 12-27-2015, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spankys bbq View Post
That's sort of true. The affordability of cars and the spread of cities put trolleys out of the game. We had an extensive trolley network in Charlotte and it went the way of the dodo because cars got affordable. Now, almost 80 years later, we need trolleys again.

Bus on a stick...that's funny as hell.
no, GM deliberately went after trolley systems. GM, Firestone, etc...

not saying every trolley system that disappeared was taken out by GM, but they DID "attack" them...
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:43 PM
Location: Sarasota FL
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Did anyone with brains in Cincinnati suggest that two buses running the 3.6 miles would cost them 99% less to operate?
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Old 12-27-2015, 11:46 PM
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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Actually 133 million seems cheap.

In 1982 Portland voted to fund 15 miles of light rail for 214 million. That's about 525 mil today for 15 miles.

Between 82 and 2004 the city spent 3 billion on light rail. Then opened another line in 2007 at the cost of $575 milion for just 6 miles. Then just a few months ago we finished a 1.5 billion dollar 7 mi trunkline that included a new bridge.

So Portland metro has 6 billion into our system. So roughly 100 million per mile.

with 37.75 million riders per year with an average ticket price of 3.75. thats roughly $142 million per year.

So what I am trying to say is.... I don't know really. It just loses tons of money. But at least dishonest people get an easy free ride!
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Old 12-28-2015, 12:28 PM
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by AndyAMG View Post
Actually 133 million seems cheap.
I was about to say the same thing. It is cheaper than a lot of the highway roads per mile...

One of the proposals here to extend the light rail in NYC suburbs to a stadium, and the cost they were estimating was $170 million for 0.7 mile stretch...
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