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Old 01-10-2014, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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This latest abomination by the Dallas Safari Club has my blood boiling. How in the world can they justify killing an endangered species for "sport"?? I will never understand the mindset of trophy hunters - killing for fun. Especially a rhino, where there are less than 4,000 in the world. Just sickening IMO.

A skilled hunter who makes a clean shot, uses what he/she kills for food and follows all safety rules when hunting has my respect. Trophy hunters earn nothing but my disgust.

FBI looks into threats ahead of rhino hunt auction
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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Is anybody voicing their concern that the Namibian government sells five such permits per year?

But before we get to that, how many of these rhino can be supported on the land in Namibia?

If, for arguments sake, there is 130,000 acres available on the preserve where they live under protection, and biologists say that will only support 1,800 rhinos, how do you keep the population limited to that 1,800? Do you euthanize the ones over that number? Yes, that would undoubtedly be the more humane thing to do. However, if the sale of 5 hunting permits brings in $1 million to be used to help maintain and run the preserve, wouldn't that be a consideration?

I don't know all the facts here, I'm just saying that without all the facts, it might not be wise to condemn something.

Then again, the outrage may very well be the proper emotion. But since I don't know the facts, and the article linked doesn't clarify that much, it's hard to say.
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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I can't understand the mindset of someone that wants to kill an endangered creature literally just for the hell of it.
The world would be a better place if people like that were out of it, I know that much.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I thought there were penalties for killing endangered animals. I guess I was wrong. Nevertheless, this is disgusting.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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This latest abomination by the Dallas Safari Club has my blood boiling. How in the world can they justify killing an endangered species for "sport"?? I will never understand the mindset of trophy hunters - killing for fun. Especially a rhino, where there are less than 4,000 in the world. Just sickening IMO.

A skilled hunter who makes a clean shot, uses what he/she kills for food and follows all safety rules when hunting has my respect. Trophy hunters earn nothing but my disgust.

FBI looks into threats ahead of rhino hunt auction
Control the rino population, and they make money.

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Old 01-12-2014, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Maybe the rhinos are like wild hogs here.

Either way I hope the hunters use the meat...and that the government uses the money for humanitarian or preservation efforts.
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Taking joy in killing any animal is seriously sick sh** in my book.
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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I don't know all the facts here, I'm just saying that without all the facts, it might not be wise to condemn something.
Excellent point. On the face of it, it bothers me, but there's also sound reasoning behind it. They're targeting old, aggressive, non-breeding rhinos. These will not add to the herd and may reduce it with their aggressiveness. If a few $million can be raised for the preserve by hunting them rather than just euthanizing them or allowing them to die off in another year, it makes sense. It's probably a decision best left to the Namibia wildlife biologists. The "hunter" will be donating upwards of $1M to the preserve and in exchange get a dead rhino for his/her wall. Not my kind of thing, but I won't say it's sick either.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Out West
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This latest abomination by the Dallas Safari Club has my blood boiling. How in the world can they justify killing an endangered species for "sport"?? I will never understand the mindset of trophy hunters - killing for fun. Especially a rhino, where there are less than 4,000 in the world. Just sickening IMO.

A skilled hunter who makes a clean shot, uses what he/she kills for food and follows all safety rules when hunting has my respect. Trophy hunters earn nothing but my disgust.

FBI looks into threats ahead of rhino hunt auction
Okay, first of all, let's put a little truth in to the thread title. It is not tickets, plural, it is A ticket, and it is one of the five that Namibia auctions each year. It is not extra tickets, and it's not going to be hundreds of hunters out there slaughtering rhino left and right.

Second of all, did anyone who got so up in arms about this READ the article?

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...it's meant to cull aggressive rhinos in an effort to protect the larger herd. He said the Namibia hunt will focus on an older, nonbreeding male with a pattern of aggression toward other rhinos.

Carter said that wildlife experts say culling a herd is an acceptable habitat management practice.
Listen, I hate the idea of killing an animal for sport, myself. I simply do not understand the mindset. HOWEVER, I also realize that if certain animals are not culled, the destruction to the remaining rhino population would be even worse.

As an example...albeit not about an endangered species...when I worked and lived in the Everglades, we had a big problem, (and they still do), with pythons. When we found one, (which we did), we had to report it and that snake would be killed. Did I enjoy that? No! Did I have an internal dialogue with myself about reporting it knowing full well that snake would be killed? Yes! Did I let the voice of reason over take my emotions? Yes! If those pythons were not taken out and killed, they would destroy many of the native wildlife in the Glades.

So, do we kill a few to save many, or do we do nothing and let the few kill everything off?

I get it, I really do get it when it comes to killing animals. I get it! But use your rational side, not your emotional side.

As for Wayne Pacell of the HSUS, why anyone would listen to that thieving idiot is beyond me. That turd supports Vick, and the HSUS doesn't do squat with the money that is donated but line their own pockets. Complete and utter tool.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Maybe the rhinos are like wild hogs here.

Either way I hope the hunters use the meat...and that the government uses the money for humanitarian or preservation efforts.
No, endangered.
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