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Old 02-01-2014, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Another case of "no common sense " being applied.

Jim B.

Toronto.
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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They cannot be sued because of the Good Samaritan Law.
Such laws vary from state to state, so are they on the books in D C?
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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Good Samaritan laws would not apply here, sovereign immunity would.

The US Gov, States, (and probably DC) can not be sued with out there permission. (But lawyer try to do everyday).


I could see the DC not wanting there fire dept units to do Self Dispatching, Those firefighters do not have a "Total" picture of everything going on in the city. One Fire Truck from that house was already out on a call. The Fire Truck that was left in the fire house may not have had the Equipment to handle any type of medical emergency. Since the other truck was out, they might have have enough firefighter in the house to do a run, due to under staffing.

So even if they did self dispatch themselves, they might not have been able to do anything.
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Old 02-01-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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So why didn't someone (Firefighter included) call 911?

"9-1-1, how may I assist you?"

"This is firefighter Joe Smith at engine house 51, we're responding to a possible heart attack victim located at such-and-such street."
Great point!!
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Old 02-01-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Lieutenant whose D.C. firefighters didn't leave to help dying man seeks retirement
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Old 02-01-2014, 05:53 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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2 firefighters placed on leave after not helping man
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Another case of "no common sense " being applied.

Jim B.

Toronto.
I am normally, because I am one, very sympathetic to first responders. However, IF (big IF), this story is true as written, these firemen were wrong. They should have assisted this man, period. Protocol's, et al are not an issue. Go, help him. Common sense dictates it.
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Old 02-02-2014, 01:27 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I am normally, because I am one, very sympathetic to first responders. However, IF (big IF), this story is true as written, these firemen were wrong. They should have assisted this man, period. Protocol's, et al are not an issue. Go, help him. Common sense dictates it.
lol, what part of the story that may not be true that could change the circumstances?

the man was not having a heart attack?
noone knocked on the fire station house?
there was noone inside the fire station?
noone told the fireman there was an emergency across the street?
the fire station was not across the street?
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This same Lt was charged with theft a couple of years back, lol:

D.C. fire department officer charged in theft of hay | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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Lawsuit to follow soon, stay tuned.
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