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I started the thread and used the "thug" reference. I have no idea what race the guy in the article is, nor do I care. Anybody who belts a woman and drags her off an elevator unconscious is a "thug" in my definition.
While I understand what you meant and don't disagree..the point is, when Scott Peterson murdered his wife, did anyone start a thread saying "another thug salesman", or Drew Petersen with numerous dead wives or priests who abuse children..do we start threads about "another thug" cop/priest etc as if it went with the territory? And when an NFL player does good, we don't have threads about "another NFL good guy" as if THAT was the norm or expected. We don't say "gosh, I read about the soccer player in Europe (forget the guy) who used horrible racial epithets..."another thug MLS player" that's why we don't watch soccer in our home. What does the NFL have to do with it? The guy is a bad dude. There are bad dudes in every profession from cops to engineers to yes, professional sports figures. So why not simply call out the individual for his behavior? And really, whether or not it was meant (and I truly believe it's not what you meant), "thug" has racial overtones.
I am not defending Ray Rice because I don't know his background but a thug is not someone who beats up his girlfriend. The person who does that is an idiot anal orifice and should be put in jail. But that is not a "thug".
I started the thread and used the "thug" reference. I have no idea what race the guy in the article is, nor do I care. Anybody who belts a woman and drags her off an elevator unconscious is a "thug" in my definition.
That's pretty hard to believe considering there is a huge picture of a black man at the beginning of the article before the video starts.
I think there's a thin line of assumption about what the term "thug" encompasses within the NFL. One could certainly say that Richie Incognito (formerly) of the Miami Dolphins was a thug. The New Orleans Saints debacle of a few years ago included players and coaches alike. If we were to expand to, say, college hoops, one could include former Rutgers coach Mike Rice and arguably the "legendary" Bobby Knight.
From the looks of it, it appears that Ray Rice committed some thuggish behavior. The question is: what are the commonalities between him and other professional athletes that are considered "thugs"?
That's a great point, which is why I asked the question about who else is considered a thug (noticed how my question was conveniently ignored).
I certainly do not condone any man hitting a woman unless she is literally trying to kill him and even then physical force may not be necessary. With that said, I think I would reserve judgment over this situation. It's easy to say that this man exhibit "thuggish" behavior, but honestly I seriously doubt they just suddenly became abusive to one another. Let's not forget that she also was charged with simple assault. Do they have an abusive relationship?
It appears so, but then the question becomes, have they been hitting each other? Is he the one hitting her or is she hitting him? Also for those who are being critical, especially if you are a man, if your significant other, hits you, what would your reaction be? Hitting her would not be right, but if you react to her hitting you, does that make you a thug? Again I don't agree with her actions, but without knowing all the details, I think calling him a thug may be pre-mature.
That word is just used way, way too loosely these days that it's beginning to lose it's meaning. I consider the behavior in a domestic case to be different than someone committing a criminal act unprovoked. Again, it just depends on the context of what happened. Again, that doesn't mean it's right to hit a woman, but that it also doesn't necessarily make him a thug.
Any time a man hurts a woman, as it appears he did here, he is far, far worse than a "thug", and these types are not just confined to the NFL. They also exist in every race.
Amusing watching the liberals trying to spin thug into the n word. It won't work imho because a thug is about exhibited behavior rather than race. Keep trying though, you are funny On the original topic any any man that hits a woman (unless he is defending himself from an attack) is a thug, white black, purple, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Amusing watching the liberals trying to spin thug into the n word. It won't work imho because a thug is about exhibited behavior rather than race. Keep trying though, you are funny On the original topic any any man that hits a woman (unless he is defending himself from an attack) is a thug, white black, purple, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Amusing watching the liberals trying to spin thug into the n word. It won't work imho because a thug is about exhibited behavior rather than race. Keep trying though, you are funny On the original topic any any man that hits a woman (unless he is defending himself from an attack) is a thug, white black, purple, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I am conservative as well and I believe you just contradicted yourself. Do you know if she attacked him first? Again we have no information on what happened and you admitted that defending himself doesn't necessarily make him a thug. Why are people trying to assume anything about this situation? Given that she got the same charge at least lends the possibility that he could have been hit first, but we will see.
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On the original topic any any man that hits a woman (unless he is defending himself from an attack) is a thug, white black, purple, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
