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Old 05-05-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Following that link led me to a whole new blog on the subject. So many new horror stories...
Father of Daxton — Mary Lane: Another victim of pro pit bull propaganda

After skimming the stories on that tumblr site, I can see why they called Pit Bulls "Nanny Dogs". After getting one, you would possibly no longer need a nanny, because your kid might be dead.


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Old 05-05-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Our mutt sometimes does a perfect point on birds, even though he's never been trained. Using that bit of knowledge, I was able to identify some physical traits that showed he had German pointer in him.

It's interesting how temperament can be so inherent in an animal. I've seen pit bulls (and other bullies) used as pig dogs, and for good reason too -they don't give up, when other breeds do.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:23 PM
 
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Eventually, there will be a requirement for "Liability Insurance" to own this breed of dog. Because a great many of the owners are not people who maybe should have a dog in the first place. Sadly, this dog has become the dog of choice for people who like the "bad boy" or "bad girl" self presentation of self.

I see people all the time, who can't control the dog while they walk the, with a heavy gauge chain around the dogs neck and the same heavy gauge chain they are struggling to control the dog as the dog pulls them along for the walk.
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Our mutt sometimes does a perfect point on birds, even though he's never been trained. Using that bit of knowledge, I was able to identify some physical traits that showed he had German pointer in him.

It's interesting how temperament can be so inherent in an animal. I've seen pit bulls (and other bullies) used as pig dogs, and for good reason too -they don't give up, when other breeds do.
Very true...our hounds are relentless on a bear trail.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:52 AM
 
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Our mutt sometimes does a perfect point on birds, even though he's never been trained. Using that bit of knowledge, I was able to identify some physical traits that showed he had German pointer in him.

It's interesting how temperament can be so inherent in an animal. I've seen pit bulls (and other bullies) used as pig dogs, and for good reason too -they don't give up, when other breeds do.
I find this true of my pit bulls. But tenacity does not equal aggression. It does however make an animal more dangerous if it does attack. I think this is what confuses or convinces some people into thinking that the breed is naturally aggressive or dangerous. Its just sad that there are people that would use this trait for evil.
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Our mutt sometimes does a perfect point on birds, even though he's never been trained. Using that bit of knowledge, I was able to identify some physical traits that showed he had German pointer in him.

It's interesting how temperament can be so inherent in an animal. I've seen pit bulls (and other bullies) used as pig dogs, and for good reason too -they don't give up, when other breeds do.
Yea, I've seen a lot of pig trained Pits. The bigger Brindles are favored for this. A wild pig is no pushover critter. A big, nasty one can tear a group of dogs up good. They are strong, low to the ground, and greasy fast.
Pig trained Pits, or whatever breed, are massive strong and highly aggressive. Its a bloodsport to my take. I don't see much difference in this compared to dog fighting. Pig dogs are lethal weapons. They don't get socialized or treated as a pet in any way. They have a job. Special precautions are required for these animals. They don't run loose. Period. They get fed and vetted royally, however. They are not abused by good owners, its an investment. They just don't get pampered. Just like any good hunting dog gets treated. For whatever purpose they have.
That's the reality of it. Breeding has built a dog for every purpose. Certain breeds are favored in pig hunting. For good reason. At any rate, if you have ever seen a team of pig dogs after a scrap with a big Boar or Sow, you will be glad you don't have those vet bills. Or have to bury one or two dogs.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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Yea, I've seen a lot of pig trained Pits. The bigger Brindles are favored for this. A wild pig is no pushover critter. A big, nasty one can tear a group of dogs up good. They are strong, low to the ground, and greasy fast.
Pig trained Pits, or whatever breed, are massive strong and highly aggressive. Its a bloodsport to my take. I don't see much difference in this compared to dog fighting. Pig dogs are lethal weapons. They don't get socialized or treated as a pet in any way. They have a job. Special precautions are required for these animals. They don't run loose. Period. They get fed and vetted royally, however. They are not abused by good owners, its an investment. They just don't get pampered. Just like any good hunting dog gets treated. For whatever purpose they have.
That's the reality of it. Breeding has built a dog for every purpose. Certain breeds are favored in pig hunting. For good reason. At any rate, if you have ever seen a team of pig dogs after a scrap with a big Boar or Sow, you will be glad you don't have those vet bills. Or have to bury one or two dogs.
Very true...

When my husband takes our hounds bear or, coyote hunting he always tells in to come say good bye to them....just in case.

That includes my house dog Rip.

He lays here at my feet all day....and would go jump a bear any chance he got.
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Old 05-06-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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Very true...

When my husband takes our hounds bear or, coyote hunting he always tells in to come say good bye to them....just in case.

That includes my house dog Rip.

He lays here at my feet all day....and would go jump a bear any chance he got.
Yes, examples of more social hunting dogs can be found. Its not the norm, however. Personally, I have never seen a pig Pit that had any sort of cuddly disposition. Lol. Critters that are trained to take on such things as perturbed pig or bears are generally not to warm and fuzzy.
I ha e seen some real messes resulting from a tangle with a big pig. The most memorable was five Brindle Pits that ran a 400+ pound sow to ground and went to work. That sow killed two and played a third open from stem to stern. I can't even estimate how many stitches that dog needed, and it still helped pin that pig. The hunter finished it with a knife. It was a brutal hunt. Bloody as all get out. Expensive pork.
I prefer to do my bacon shopping with a rifle or large caliber handgun. I have pieces that are just for pigs. But, there are a LOT of people who run dogs. Different strokes.
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Old 05-06-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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Yes, examples of more social hunting dogs can be found. Its not the norm, however. Personally, I have never seen a pig Pit that had any sort of cuddly disposition. Lol. Critters that are trained to take on such things as perturbed pig or bears are generally not to warm and fuzzy.
I ha e seen some real messes resulting from a tangle with a big pig. The most memorable was five Brindle Pits that ran a 400+ pound sow to ground and went to work. That sow killed two and played a third open from stem to stern. I can't even estimate how many stitches that dog needed, and it still helped pin that pig. The hunter finished it with a knife. It was a brutal hunt. Bloody as all get out. Expensive pork.
I prefer to do my bacon shopping with a rifle or large caliber handgun. I have pieces that are just for pigs. But, there are a LOT of people who run dogs. Different strokes.
Our old dog Ape had his side ripped open by a bear two years ago....the guys could not call him off and could not get a clean shot at the bear.

They stitched him up on the back of the pick-up tuck....they always have a staple gun and the medical supplies right with them.

So far this year the only thing the dogs got hurt with is porcupine quills.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:33 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Our old dog Ape had his side ripped open by a bear two years ago....the guys could not call him off and could not get a clean shot at the bear.

They stitched him up on the back of the pick-up tuck....they always have a staple gun and the medical supplies right with them.

So far this year the only thing the dogs got hurt with is porcupine quills.
Oh yea...good ol' porcupines. For such a layed back critter they can do as much damage as a mountain lion to a dog. The yowling when a dog gets smacked across the face, particularly the nose, can bring on severe chills to an owner. I only had one dog that tangled with one and he got off cheap. Just a graze. Even a Pits famous locking jaws don't work on Peter Porcupine. Its let go or die.
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