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Old 04-23-2014, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
True, but we've moved on - elected a black president - twice.
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I think it should end, or be toned down. There are many other races of people that have played ball.
Only those of African descent were expressly banned by Major League Baseball.
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:18 PM
 
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ESPN "Jackie Robinson changed sports forever"

But England had a Professinal Black player 60 years prior
So did France, Portugal, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, etc. etc. What matters is that America is remembering a great American who was a pioneer who changed society.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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So did France, Portugal, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, etc. etc. What matters is that America is remembering a great American who was a pioneer who changed society.
When will we celebrate the first White jazzman?
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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When will we celebrate the first White jazzman?
Bix Beiderbecke Memorial Society

He may or may not have been the first, but he was one of the great White musicians in jazz's early years.

Besides, there was nobody keeping White folks from playing jazz.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I don't see a reason for anyone to be celebrated because they are a specific color/race/gender. Honor them for their talent or accomplishments, not just because "golly gee wiz, a black person can really do that? "
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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I don't see a reason for anyone to be celebrated because they are a specific color/race/gender. Honor them for their talent or accomplishments, not just because "golly gee wiz, a black person can really do that? "
You don't think he was talented or accomplished as a ball player? Check his stats. Why is it when white players are honored, it's assumed it's because of his accomplishments, but when Jackie is, it's assumed it's only because of the color of his skin? This thread has already established that there are literally dozens of baseball players of all different races, black, white and hispanic who have annual "Days" where their former teams/cities celebrate them, so why is Jackie's the ONLY one where it's assumed to be about race on this thread?
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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I see no reason not to continue to commemorate Jackie Robinson Day. I have a lot of admiration for him and what he went through to integrate baseball.
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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I don't see a reason for anyone to be celebrated because they are a specific color/race/gender. Honor them for their talent or accomplishments, not just because "golly gee wiz, a black person can really do that? "
Spot on. If USA is truly the model of equality, when does this sort of commemoration fade away?
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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You don't think he was talented or accomplished as a ball player? Check his stats.
Of course he was talented. But he wasn't talented because of or in spite of being black, he was talented due to skill, hard work and other factors and should honored with other talented people without a reference to his color or racial background.
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