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Old 05-01-2014, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Dr. Kevorkian seemed to have a humane method of dealing with death. Oh wait, Dr. Kevorkian had to go to prison for assisting with putting people to death.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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The US Constitution has a rule against cruel and unusual punishment. Do you want that repealed?
Quite honestly? Yes. Some people do acts so heinous I can't believe a fellow human was involved. I can't take a moral high ground. The victims are not afforded the choice of being humanely put to sleep.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NY
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AOL.com Article - Man dies of heart attack after botched execution

My reply to this is who cares? Did he care when he shot that girl and buried her alive?

I'm just sorry the next POS who raped and killed an innocent 11 month old baby couldn't be executed right after him.
These sickening murderers get treated better than a lot of decent human beings get treated, including their victims.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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I'm against the death penalty in every instance. It puts us on the level of the criminal. It also seems to bring out the worst in people - sadism, vindictive and violent thoughts are but three.

We can do better than North Korea and Iran. Why put ourselves in the company of such dreadful countries?

I have no problem with life sentences with no possibility of parole, though.
Do you know how much it costs to house, feed, and give medical care to the average prisoner in the US. It's around 30K a year.

Charles Manson and his "family" have been in jail now for over 40yrs and the CA taxpayers are footing the bill. Two of the "girls" earned college degrees(gee I had to pay for mine).

Sorry, there are cases where putting them to death is better for society. The Manson "girls" seem to be getting closer and closer to getting paroled each time.

Would you like someone who could go into a home and brutally stab to death a complete stranger who never did them any harm, getting paroled and moving into your neighborhood?????

Leslie Van Houten stabbed Mrs. La Bianca over 40 times after the woman was already dead.

They should have been put to death.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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How is it botched if he still died?
Because he didn't die by execution. He died, but the execution failed to kill him. This is the equivalent of a man who was hanged but did not die from the hanging.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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If we could reduce the cost and risk of incarceration, it would make sense to get rid of the death penalty. It's basically a stupid idea. The kind of idea a politician or lawyer would think up. But we need cheaper prisons with better security. We need to reduce the cost of life in prison to below the cost of execution. It already is below, because execution requires hundreds of hours of lawyer time. But we need to reduce it below how cheap it would be if we did it with common sense, rather than lawyer/politician thinking.

Why should it cost so much per day to keep someone in prison? Only because the people who design prisons and prison systems have the same kind of mentality as lawyers and politicians. We need people with common sense to design prisons to make them many times cheaper and more secure than they are now.
What you really need to do is to greatly REDUCE the number of inmates. The number of prisoners in the USA is just mind blowing.
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Old 05-01-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I hope he suffered.
He suffered plenty.

If suffering is the object of execution, why not go back to drawing and quartering?

Do you want justice, or do you want torture?
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Old 05-01-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Soooo much emotion on this thread.

I find it super ironic when people can make comments like 'I hope he suffered' while not understanding that this is the same attitude that causes people to hurt others in the first place.
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Old 05-01-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I never understand why they execute people the way they do.. can't they just give them anesthesia so they get put unconscious in a humane manner? As for all the people hoping they suffer, two wrongs don't make a right...
That's what chemical injection is supposed to do.
The first drug injected is a sedative overdose, which, by itself, should be enough to kill the condemned.
But just to make sure, the second drug paralyzes the condemned's body, and the third is a poison that stops the heart.

No witness ever knows for sure just how much pain and distress happens. If the sedative does not have enough time to work, the paralyzed person cannot display pain physically even though they may feel intense pain. Once paralyzed, they can't even blink.

Those who have died in a botched execution have yelled, screamed, or shouted out that they were in great pain.
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Old 05-01-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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That's what chemical injection is supposed to do.
The first drug injected is a sedative overdose, which, by itself, should be enough to kill the condemned.
But just to make sure, the second drug paralyzes the condemned's body, and the third is a poison that stops the heart.

No witness ever knows for sure just how much pain and distress happens. If the sedative does not have enough time to work, the paralyzed person cannot display pain physically even though they may feel intense pain. Once paralyzed, they can't even blink.

Those who have died in a botched execution have yelled, screamed, or shouted out that they were in great pain.
Awww....Kinda brings a tear to your eye doesn't it.
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