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Old 05-02-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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You people are no better than the murderer.

Why not just stone them to death.
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How about "some of you people....."
How about getting a grip and acknowledging that posting a comment on an Internet forum -- no matter how disagreeable you may find it-- is a far cry from shooting a young girl and then burying her alive? You should be ashamed for conflating the two.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:21 PM
 
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I didn't misquote you. It's fairly obvious that those are my responses to specific points you made.

As for the 4%, if you're going to use info that was posted elsewhere in the thread, at least use it correctly. The 4% are supposedly (that number was extrapolated and isn't actual hard data) convicted, not executed.

Where is the line drawn? Eternal legal wrangling until everyone's conviction is overturned on the slightest ridiculous point? I'm sure the founding fathers meant for our legal system to be based on determining guilt, not just expert lawyering.
Many of those people were exonerated through DNA testing. How many wrongful convictions is enough for you to see a problem? One hundred? Fifty? Does it make a difference to you if its one of your family members or friends? Or do you think that's just "part of the price we pay" for having something like the death penalty on the books. If life in prison without parole were not an option, I could possibly see this your way. I think our current system is not nearly as good at adjudicating guilt and innocence as many believe.
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Old 05-02-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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How can it be botched when he is dead ? 40 min was not long enough for him to lay on the table, but he will have a lot of time to consider what he did, He will be plenty warm where he went
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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How can it be botched when he is dead ? 40 min was not long enough for him to lay on the table, but he will have a lot of time to consider what he did, He will be plenty warm where he went
I guess some crimes are unforgivable then? I mean that in the religious sense as well, given your comment there.
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:33 PM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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Look at the girl he killed, only a animal can do something like that, and there is a special place in hell for them.
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Old 05-03-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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I guess some crimes are unforgivable then? I mean that in the religious sense as well, given your comment there.
Leave the forgiving up to God...society doesn't have to forgive a cold blooded killer...you take a life you forfeit yours...
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Old 05-03-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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All the bleeding hearts need to do a bit of research before they spout.

The man confessed.

He never, ever, for one single moment has showed remorse.

Deal with it!

The race card is especially repulsive.

Originally Posted by Catdancer
Was this man convicted on DNA evidence or by witness testimony? I mean, we're talking about a black man in Oklahoma here.

Nice touch, lol!

Here ya go....taped confession.

http://kfor.com/2014/05/01/letter-fr...n-point-blank/
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Yeah not one word about my post re. giving politicians the right to legally murder.
/sigh

He was found guilty by a jury of his peers. The government was merely carrying out the wishes of those on the jury who voted.

Now you know.
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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How can it be botched when he is dead ? 40 min was not long enough for him to lay on the table, but he will have a lot of time to consider what he did, He will be plenty warm where he went

I can't wrap my head around the concept of "botched execution" when the criminal is dead.

Was he convicted for "botched murder"?
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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I am all for the death penalty when it is proven without any doubt that the person is guilty. Either confession, DNA (has to be proven) , video etc... it has to be proven. Once that has been done there should be no appeals, no plea bargains , nothing... no waiting years.
Just keep in mind that it's possible to have a false confession. Many interrogation techniques can pressure the victim into confessing to a crime they didn't commit. It would have to be a confession combined with other forms of overwhelming evidence that they committed the crime.
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