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Old 05-04-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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My question is: How would you protect kids from it??? The arguments are all good ~ I'm on the fence with this one, myself ~ but I don't see how legalization would keep it off the hands of children, and that's my primary concern.

And I agree with the poster above. I don't think taxpayers should pay for treatment either.
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Whose money would you spend on the treatment? I don't think taxpayers should have to pay a dime -- let the drug addicts pay for their own treatment.

I would say legalize drugs in prisons -- let the prisoners have unlimited supplies of the drugs of their choice. All welfare handouts of every kind should be ended to those choosing to use drugs --- no SSI, no food stamps, no Medicaid.

As long as taxpayers are having to foot the bill, then no to legalization.
And this is exactly why we spend billions in the war on drugs, and have a mental health problem in America. While I agree in principle on drug testing welfare recipients, it should be extended to members of Congress who do drugs too.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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Absolutely NOT. Drugs and prostitution and public smoking should be prohibited.
OK, but why? I posted so as to explore the reasons pro and con.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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My question is: How would you protect kids from it??? The arguments are all good ~ I'm on the fence with this one, myself ~ but I don't see how legalization would keep it off the hands of children, and that's my primary concern.

And I agree with the poster above. I don't think taxpayers should pay for treatment either.

Well, I don't want to pay for your kids public education, library hour for your kids, your playground. Etc.

This is so ridiculous!

We are a society. We are a civilization. We help one another. That's how it is supposed to work.

Some people are alcoholics. I don't want to "pay" for their care. I am a selfish person. Let them go work it out on their own. Etc.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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There is no solution to the drug problem.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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My question is: How would you protect kids from it??? The arguments are all good ~ I'm on the fence with this one, myself ~ but I don't see how legalization would keep it off the hands of children, and that's my primary concern.

And I agree with the poster above. I don't think taxpayers should pay for treatment either.
Yes, this is a real issue. How to protect the kids. A lot of parents are irresponsible and can't/won't monitor their own kids.
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Old 05-04-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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I see no reason why they should be illegal. First of all drug use always fall under mental health and because of that it should be looked at as a health issue rather than a criminal issue. But everything goes back to money, soo...
Sometimes it doesn't go back to money. Say a kid lives with so-so parents. The kid is fooling around with someone who offers him/her to try cocaine, heroin, meth. This is going to be a problem, I think.

I don't even know if you are hooked after one try with these drugs. Can someone advise?

Can a kid try meth and be still OK? Or heroin? Once?
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Old 05-04-2014, 05:08 PM
 
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Whose money would you spend on the treatment? I don't think taxpayers should have to pay a dime -- let the drug addicts pay for their own treatment.

I would say legalize drugs in prisons -- let the prisoners have unlimited supplies of the drugs of their choice. All welfare handouts of every kind should be ended to those choosing to use drugs --- no SSI, no food stamps, no Medicaid.

As long as taxpayers are having to foot the bill, then no to legalization.

You are leaving out a HUGE source of drug supply funding.......Crime!

If drugs are legal, more will use and when their job at McDonalds/Walmart or Joe's Garage cannot pay for their habit they will be forced into some variation of criminal activity to fund their addiction.

Legalizing hard drugs will be a disaster on several levels. The saddest part is there will be plenty of good people lost in addiction that may have never started doing hard drugs. I have never seen a drug addict I admired for anything (hard work, good family values, etc). It always ends badly....
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Old 05-04-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Kids do things that have a stigma and mystique surrounding them. You want to make drugs uncool? Legalize them. I've barely gotten p*ss drunk since turning 19.

Spend the war funds on treatment.
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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It would eliminate a lot of abusers very quickly, ( note to self, invest in funeral homes, casket makers )
Quite the opposite. Heroin has no negative physical effects. All of the deaths are due to impure drugs and accidental overdose. A person can be a heroin user for years without experiencing the problems associated with other drugs, like alcohol. Drug laws kill people directly.

Lots of people hear "legalize" and think it means a candy store free-for-all. What it really means is regulated sales, instead of black market sales. Portugal legalized all drugs a decade ago, and cut their addiction rate in half.

The War on Drugs was a stupid mistake, only promoted today by lobbyists funded by organized crime.
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