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Old 05-16-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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isn't everything in science "suspect" until it is a law? scientists are supposed to question conclusions except its criticism of "climate change" which is what pays the bills for many of them.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:33 PM
 
Location: S. Nevada
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isn't everything in science "suspect" until it is a law? scientists are supposed to question conclusions except its criticism of "climate change" which is what pays the bills for many of them.
<tips hat to the Capt.> Touche NJ about the suspect/questioning aspect. I still don't 'buy' into the 'scientists have been bought supposition' though. Why? Because there would be more research money to score if it was more 50/50 - that's what the lawyers do! Go back and forth, pulling in fees coming and going.

M. Paolella did confirm that "suspect" science = "bogus/bought" science.

Besides/beyond all the scientific work ("weather" you believe it or not) if humans can deforest vast areas of forest, wipe out entire species (buffalo/bison, carrier pigeon, etc) pollute the earth (can't DDT be detected anyplace on Earth?), drain rivers (Colorado) it certainly seems possible that we can change the climate.

Personally I think we have impacted the Earth in ways we have not yet fully realized and there will be some exceedingly "taxing" problems coming up.

Consider the disturbing threats to bees and other pollinators - not clear if robotics can save us if it comes to that - genetic manipulation is the more likely out. Let them eat alga! Mmmm, soylent green.

So how about that Gaia hypothesis? <goes to get some popcorn>
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: NJ
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just like nobody pays politicians to have them cut their spending; nobody is funding "climate science" to have them cut the spending on "climate change" stuff like ethanol, solar, wind, carbon trading, etc.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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This has been proven, and some just chose to ignore the findings. What did big tobacco do when it was determined their product was bad? The ad said Doctors love Marlboro. This thread is proof of the power of media.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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This has been proven, and some just chose to ignore the findings. What did big tobacco do when it was determined their product was bad? The ad said Doctors love Marlboro. This thread is proof of the power of media.
everything in the media is supporting the lie of climate change. people are starting to think for themselves and see how ridiculous it is. not just that, but they think the proposed solutions are even more ridiculous. we keep getting predictions that are proven wrong and deadlines that come and go with no problems. lets focus on real problems instead of letting the rich donors and beggars control the conversation because they just want our money.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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everything in the media is supporting the lie of climate change. people are starting to think for themselves and see how ridiculous it is. not just that, but they think the proposed solutions are even more ridiculous.
There will always be a small minority who believe in conspiracy theories. It is difficult to comprehend concepts above ones understanding.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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I'm a registered Democrat, but I have sense enough to know that a Republican is not brain-dead or narrow-minded just because of not agreeing with some Progressive who spouts information as if he knows what others don't know. There is very little more ignorant than making broad blanket statements about the intellect of a large group of people.
People who insist the sky is green despite all evidence to the contrary are in fact brain-dead or narrow-minded. If you're going to insist that there are two sides to every story, even if one side is "hey maybe I should clean my ears with a revolver, you can't prove it won't work this time", then you're the ignorant one.
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Old 05-18-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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There will always be a small minority who believe in conspiracy theories. It is difficult to comprehend concepts above ones understanding.
who wants to bet that everything will be fine in 500 days?

French Foreign Minister: '500 Days to Avoid Climate Chaos' | The Weekly Standard

where are those 50 million climate change refugees?

The UN “disappears” 50 million climate refugees, then botches the disappearing attempt | Watts Up With That?

whats funny is that you will sit there defending "climate change" while knowing that all these dire predictions will be false. come on, deep down you don't really believe any of that crap. so just let that deep down part rise to the surface and push down the bs lies.
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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The only difference between climate change denialism and round Earth denialism, is that only one of those has billionaires purchasing politicians to defend their fortunes by propagating the obvious lies. And I regard climate change deniers with the same level of respect as the flat-Earthers.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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Don't mistake local weather for global climate. This winter was, globally, the 8th warmest on record. Nationally it was the 34th coolest out of 119; cold but not record-cold.

A Cold U.S. Winter for Sure, but 8th Warmest Globally | Climate Central
Excellent point. When I referred to the Farmer's Almanac predicting a cold winter I was only referencing locally as the jet streams change but following long term patterns.
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