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Old 05-16-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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This is why teachers need unions to protect them from unfair management practices. Had this person been represented the result would have been much different.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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Do what the US has done at the border for years: hire only ex-Navy and military special forces and change the name from Detroit Education "Achievement" Authority to "I'll bet I'll own your butt before you own mine" Authority.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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Keep firing teachers, soon there won't be many left and they would have to increase pay to bring them back.
Pay will not be increased. Teaching in such schools has already turned into a volunteer operation through Americorps.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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I have to wonder about a teacher who commands no respect in the classroom; she might as well have been a wall or a chair to those kids.

I'm not surprised, though, as it's probably the same atmosphere those kids encounter at home, where there's a posse of female relatives who, themselves, command no respect--and no male authority figure.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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This is why teachers need unions to protect them from unfair management practices. Had this person been represented the result would have been much different.
If you look former teachers are a huge part of that administration. Its more a reflection of society in general in any area.;sadly.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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If you look former teachers are a huge part of that administration. Its more a reflection of society in general in any area.;sadly.
I realize this, but they think about liability, and it's much easier to terminate than deal with the issue. A union would have provided due process that would have given the individual a chance. Ask any teacher why they like the union, and representation in liability will be the answer. We surely know it's not great wages!
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Exactly. What do they expect teachers to do in situations like this..seems like you are dammed if you do you are dammed if you don't.

Back in my day the teachers broom would have been the least of my worries when my parents found out but alas that's not true today.
Sounds about right. There was the news story about how inside a school bus, 3 boys wailed on one boy. The bus driver got criticized by the internet for not doing enough, but he did call for help. Supporters say the guy was in his late 50s, early 60s? He was old enough that physical involvement was NOT the way to go, so not jumping in was the smarter thing to do.
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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This is why teachers need unions to protect them from unfair management practices. Had this person been represented the result would have been much different.
Oopsie. You forgot your smiley.



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I realize this, but they think about liability, and it's much easier to terminate than deal with the issue. A union would have provided due process that would have given the individual a chance. Ask any teacher why they like the union, and representation in liability will be the answer. We surely know it's not great wages!
Oopsie. You were serious?

Oh, my!
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Exactly. What do they expect teachers to do in situations like this..seems like you are dammed if you do you are dammed if you don't.

Back in my day the teachers broom would have been the least of my worries when my parents found out but alas that's not true today.
This is not a today vs yesterday thing.
A friend of mine was fired 20 years ago for "laying a hand on a kid" - the kid she grabbed a knife away from when he jumped up and threatened another classmate with it. Teenage boy.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have to wonder about a teacher who commands no respect in the classroom; she might as well have been a wall or a chair to those kids.

I'm not surprised, though, as it's probably the same atmosphere those kids encounter at home, where there's a posse of female relatives who, themselves, command no respect--and no male authority figure.
I dunno about you, but it was my mom who would wail on us and my dad who would coddle.
And neither of us would EVER dream of saying Boo to a teacher because both parents would have brought the hammer down at that point.
But thanks for interjecting the misogyny. It's helpful.
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