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Old 05-21-2014, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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What percentage of students are black in DC? Are there any good public schools there?
According to this site, http://publicschoolsk12.com/high-schools/dc/, the DC High Schools are 88% black, 7% Hispanic and 4 % white. I went to school in New Orleans where the schools are 95% black. There were a few good students but a huge % of very low performers. I don't know if it's possible to have a large black schools and be exceptional...I'd like to think you could but obviously throwing huge dollars at it as DC has done absolutely doesn't work. You need parents that care and demand their kids and their schools to be exceptional...as is the case where I live in Washington (state).
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Old 05-21-2014, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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What percentage of students are black in DC? Are there any good public schools there?
http://www.washlaw.org/pdf/DC%20Publ...0-%20Final.pdf

3/4 of DCPS is black. 2/3 of them are low income. The good schools are the charter and private.
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Old 05-21-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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http://www.washlaw.org/pdf/DC%20Publ...0-%20Final.pdf

3/4 of DCPS is black. 2/3 of them are low income. The good schools are the charter and private.
I guess this brings up the question - why are so many blacks in DC poor and why is low income THAT much of a hindrance? I mean, I hear a lot of Appalachia is dirt floor poor and living in slums - how much funding (and attention) do they get and how are the schools performing compared to DC? Are they killing each other in the streets and assaulting teachers everyday in WV? I'm thinking people like these...


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Old 05-21-2014, 07:56 PM
 
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DC High Schools are 88% black ... in New Orleans ... 95% black ... a few good students but a huge % of very low performers.
What are the test scores in the heavily black DC suburbs, where most parents are educated middle-class government employees?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...oaW_story.html
Here's a generic article from 10 years ago:
http://hepg.org/her-home/issues/harv...herarticle/_38
Perhaps, mothers collecting welfare & living in public or Section 8 housing should have to attend school with their children! They can both assist in the teaching process, and do some learning themselves, until obtaining earned high school diplomas or GEDs.

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Old 05-21-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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What are the test scores in the heavily black DC suburbs, where most parents are educated middle-class government employees?

Perhaps, mothers collecting welfare & living in public or Section 8 housing should have to attend school with their children! They can both assist in the teaching process, and do some learning themselves, until obtaining earned high school diplomas or GEDs.
Or what about separating the higher performers from the low performers? Maybe the bottom 50% (probably function academically like 2nd graders) can go off to highly structured trade schools that are ran military style. Granted, I sure this would be seen as racist somehow.
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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what about separating the higher performers from the low ... this would be seen as racist somehow.
Why? There were always "reading groups" when I went to school, as well as advanced, average & low-achieving classes. Today, there are "Gifted & Talented" programs in many schools, as well as magnet schools. Many appear to attract more whites and Asians, than blacks & latinos, but if they are truly merit based, that should survive a challenge.
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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Why? There were always "reading groups" when I went to school, as well as advanced, average & low-achieving classes. Today, there are "Gifted & Talented" programs in many schools, as well as magnet schools. Many appear to attract more whites and Asians, than blacks & latinos, but if they are truly merit based, that should survive a challenge.
We had that too. I'm saying separate them completely into different schools. Don't let the lower performing kids steal any of the funds or make the school feel more dangerous. And don't try to "educate" them - just discipline, life skills and some sort of trade.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Has anyone questioned how that money is being spent?
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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Has anyone questioned how that money is being spent?
To do so would imply that there will be accountability for the poor results. We know that's not a concern in government.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Bowie, MD
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Has anyone questioned how that money is being spent?
Of course not. Everyone is quick to jump onto the racial bandwagon and avoid the conversation of corrupt officials. As a DC Native and product of the DCPS system I can tell you horror stories of Fundraising Money 'absconded' with by teachers. Students had saved up several thousand dollars towards their senior class trip, only to find out in the months leading up to the trip that the money had 'disappeared.'

In the 90s - early 00's when I was going through the system, it was common to have a teacher to student ratio of 1:50, and to learn from books that indicated Reagan as sitting president. How much was used towards spending then?

Something tells me that not even half of the money 'spent' on each student is seen by the student in any meaningful way.
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