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Old 05-28-2014, 05:26 PM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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All I see is more money being thrown at a problem that the teacher unions and politicians caused.
The kids now go to school longer hours during the day and end the school year later and start it earlier, yet the kids that are coming out of the schools are dumber than they were in past years. They are teaching so much feel good crap and being PC to the point of being idiotic, instead of teaching the basics. There is no reason any kid should not be able to read, do basic math, know history, geography, science. It is disgusting that most kids don't know when WWII was, or cannot find a country on a map.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:40 PM
 
Location: DC area
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Eh, DC is trying, I'll give them that but money and demographics will only get them so far. What DC schools need is time.

We, as a society, have developed this instant-fix mentality that is counter to how life actually works. Change takes time.

DC schools were horrendous a decade ago. They aren't terrific now and they're not going to be great next year. No matter how much we want change to be quick, problems that have grown over decades aren't going to be corrected quickly. It will take almost as long to fix as it did to break.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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the most expensive school district in the USA is also the worst performing. ... a serious waste of taxpayer money ... probably over half is graft stolen for a few. How do they get that much anyhow?
I don't think it's half graft, which would be straight-out stealing. It's more the creation of a giant bureaucracy, which is more about jobs & empire building, than educating.
District of Columbia Public Schools - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A 1:11 teacher:student ratio is excellent, but how many of those teachers are actually in a regular classroom? How many are "specialists" or have some non-classroom assignment? There are also twice as many "staff", as teachers. Who are these >8,000?

In state capital news, Trenton NJ will spend $130 Million for a new high school for <2,000 students. The current school is ranked almost worst in the state, and a new building won't improve that. Most urban NJ schools are funded by taxes paid by suburban residents, whose schools educate far better, at far less cost per pupil.
http://www.trentonian.com/social-aff...ew-high-school
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenton...al_High_School

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Old 05-29-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So the most expensive school district in the USA is also the worst performing. Wow, that's a serious waste of taxpayer money...probably over half is graft stolen for a few. How do they get that much anyhow?

Just goes with what I've been saying that having parents that care and demand the schools educate their kids is far more critical than how much money they spend...I've experienced good and horrible schools in my time in school and also my kids who got a great education at $6K per student.
Can't be all that bad.

91% of the White students and 86% of the Asians students passed the DC state tests last year.


http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/fil...atewide%29.pdf
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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You are incorrect, because California spends quite a bit less than some other states per pupil. See figure 4 here.

http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/11f33pub.pdf

California spending per pupil is on par with many other states including Texas. See table 8 for a better break down per pupil that shows how little the state spends compared to others.
The per pupil spending isn't high in CA, but teachers on average are paid a lot more than in many other states.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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The Proficient rating represents a B. I'm okay with most kids having a C instead of a B. That's what normal distribution means. I don't expect every student to be above average.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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The per pupil spending isn't high in CA, but teachers on average are paid a lot more than in many other states.
Funny, I hold a vocational teaching credential in Construction Technology in California, and in 2009 was offered $46,000 a year for a full time position in Ventura County. I declined the offer, because I thought it was an insult. I guess if you think that's good money then maybe you're right. It was less than half I made as a construction supervisor.
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