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Old 05-25-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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That's odd, because for most of American urban development up until the early 20th century (particularly in those cities with a significant black population), the relatively poor servant class either lived in rear alley dwellings behind wealthy homes or lived in the same home as the wealthy families altogether.
There's a difference between the servant class (which essentially no longer exists) and the welfare class.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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There's a difference between the servant class (which essentially no longer exists) and the welfare class.
It almost seems like the servant class still exists, but is just structured different with the "servants" being "shared" by many and employed by a third party. Most people may not have their own cooks, maids, etc., but I can't help but see those who cook and package ready-to-eat food at the grocery store for you, maid services, lawn/landscaping services, and restaurant servers as the modern "servant class".
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:06 AM
 
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Housing Preservation and Development Commissioner Vicki Been said the plan to build 80,000 new affordable apartments and preserve 120,000 units would create a more diverse city.


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Read more: City plans to attack economic segregation by moving poor into middle-class neighborhoods, richer into poverty spots - NY Daily News
Sounds like a good idea. I think it might help enlighten some of the up-tight, close-minded, bigoted "rich" people.

Some of the nastiest people I have met were wealthy. It might be helpful for them to live around some "poor" people, whom I have usually found to be nicer, more honest, and more hard-working than entitled "job creators."
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:33 AM
 
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Most people want to make money in life so they can get away from the low-lifes.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:37 AM
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Maybe seeing people doing better than them every day will get them to be better.
What??, did you pick up the liberal playbook from the 60's? Spoiler alert → It didn't work.

The new line is, "everybody deserves the lifestyle of the rich". That way no results are measured.
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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It's all part of the well-documented scheme to "redistribute" people--there's an entire agenda to make areas more diverse by zip code.

Then, when people who moved into neighborhoods for which they pay beaucoup taxes beef about it, they can be called intolerant, racists, etc. Memo to the PTB: Dropping people into better neighborhoods does not solve their problems. The problems come with them.
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Sounds like a good idea. I think it might help enlighten some of the up-tight, close-minded, bigoted "rich" people.

Some of the nastiest people I have met were wealthy. It might be helpful for them to live around some "poor" people, whom I have usually found to be nicer, more honest, and more hard-working than entitled "job creators."


OK, we get it. You live in a poor neighborhood riddled with crime and abject poverty--the kind that the architects of the scheme want to move people out of. It's a free country, and people should be able to live where they want to live as long as they're paying for it.

P.S. If you don't live in that type of neighborhood, why not?
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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Housing Preservation and Development Commissioner Vicki Been said the plan to build 80,000 new affordable apartments and preserve 120,000 units would create a more diverse city.


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Read more: City plans to attack economic segregation by moving poor into middle-class neighborhoods, richer into poverty spots - NY Daily News
I think it's a good idea AS LONG AS the low-income ppl are scattered throughout the middle class/rich areas in lower concentrations, so it would be harder for them to congregate with each other and create the same kind of environment as in their community of origin.

The reality is that as a child you really have zero control over:
- What neighborhood you happen to be born into.
- Who your parent/s happen to be and how much they make.
- What school system you happen to attend.
- What environment you happen to be brought up in.

.... So society should be taking steps to make sure as many people as possible can have a fair chance in life.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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I don't know about this. Why GIVE some people affordable homes in better neighborhoods? Isn't that part of the "let me git dat" problem that makes people unmotivated to earn things?

Lets face it, the middle and upper class want to separate themselves from those that languish in poverty. Moving these people into better neighborhoods will likely lower property values and raise crime which will cause the wealthy to move somewhere else. If those with money wanted diversity, they would volunteer to move to poorer areas.
Class+racial strife is the weapon of the progressive.
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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It's all part of the well-documented scheme to "redistribute" people--there's an entire agenda to make areas more diverse by zip code.

Then, when people who moved into neighborhoods for which they pay beaucoup taxes beef about it, they can be called intolerant, racists, etc. Memo to the PTB: Dropping people into better neighborhoods does not solve their problems. The problems come with them.
I thought the middle class in NYC was already doing that involuntarily in regards to the hideous rents? Especially the singletons. "Brooklyn as steep as Manhattan" and all that. The hectic neighborhoods I've seen random Internet dudes advising people to consider buying in because they're "a great investment"... maybe the mayor should consider enforcing loitering laws first. There are a great many neighborhoods I'd help "gentrify" if walking down their streets didn't scare me solid, some of my friends are even afraid to walk down the streets of mine.
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