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Old 06-05-2014, 01:42 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by West Phx Native View Post
a gun has many purposes, a shotgun can be used to kill, or it can be used to hunt, or it can be used to shoot trap and skeet,
Any gun can be used to kill, as can they be used for other purposes, such as target practice, competition, self defense,

What about the fact that this nut job stabbed to death 3 people, and ran over several others with his car, should we be trying to ban knives ? He killed just as many with a knife as he did with a gun. What about cars ? he used a car as a weapon, it was not designed as such, but he used it as one, so shouldn't cars be banned as dangerous weapons ?
The car argument is palpable nonsense.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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The car argument is palpable nonsense.
Why ? because everyone has one and knows how to use one ? It was never designed as weapon, but it has been used as one, so shouldn't they be banned because of their use as such ? I am just apply the liberal logic that if it is used to killed it should be banned, or does that only apply to guns ?
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Why ? because everyone has one and knows how to use one ? It was never designed as weapon, but it has been used as one, so shouldn't they be banned because of their use as such ? I am just apply the liberal logic that if it is used to killed it should be banned, or does that only apply to guns ?
Epic fail.
Actually, it is a liberal ideal to allow firearms to be sold to criminals as is currently allowed! The car is just another of a long list of excuses to not address this liberal issue.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Well let's see, would you not agree that you inferred it when you mentioned "banning speech" in your post? I would agree.
No.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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But what?

I think it's time to start publishing the pharmaceuticals both legal and illegal that these mass shooters are using. Including their ADD meds.

Don't expect the "do something" crowd to ever get specific. They don't have to, though. They can talk about "common-sense gun laws" until Abe wakes up, and we'll still know that, since we already have laws, they're referring to confiscating guns from those who are licensed.
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Old 06-07-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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I have a family member with Aspergers and know that it's a really difficult diagnosis. But in the case of my relative, the symptoms and behavior patterns are textbook examples. The most striking thing about people with Aspergers is their high level of intelligence coupled with a near complete inability to socialize with peers. That's obvious with this kid.

As to the level of entitlement, narcissism and misogyny seen among young males today: I see it all the time. I'm in my late 40s but help out occasionally at a bar owned by friends where young twenty-something's and hipsters congregate. The amount of foul talk and disrespect I hear from many of these young men towards women is disturbing. I've caught myself admonishing, correcting and even counseling them (one kid is currently facing a rape charge after picking up a drunk girl one night; he blames her).

It's not just because I'm old; I truly believe the internet and the proliferation of computer porn has desensitized an entire generation of young men toward women and sex. It's very sad.
Please, compared to previous generations of misogyny this seems tame. At least now society calls out men on abusing women and being misogynistic. Your hatred for young men is showing.
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Old 06-07-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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Why couldn't he have hired a hooker to lose his virginity????
He probably would've killed the hooker and still killed other people. Virginity is not to be blamed for his psychosis.
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: NY
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people is twisted logic.

People with guns kill people.

That's what it really is.
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:40 PM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people is twisted logic.

People with guns kill people.

That's what it really is.
And so do people with knives, and hammers, and baseball bats and cars, and rocks and clubs and on and on and on.


there is one common denominator, PEOPLE kill people, and they will use any means at their disposal.

In this nut jobs case, is it ok that he killed 3 with a knife and not a gun ? why are they not calling for knife control ?
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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And so do people with knives, and hammers, and baseball bats and cars, and rocks and clubs and on and on and on.


there is one common denominator, PEOPLE kill people, and they will use any means at their disposal.

In this nut jobs case, is it ok that he killed 3 with a knife and not a gun ? why are they not calling for knife control ?
Stupid argument, and a gun makes killing much easier. Just don't create a systems that allows felons to buy guns, and an attempt at identify the mentally disturbed would help. Making the illegal sales people held responsible for their crimes would be a great start. The whole premise of the 2nd amendment is based on a false premise anyway, because I do not have a right to bear all arms, and would look pretty silly with my model 94 with a blackhawk helicopter at my front door. Feel free to continue to believe in your false ideal though.
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