U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Aliso Viejo, Orange County, CA
4,736 posts, read 5,942,334 times
Reputation: 3833

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by KittenSparkles View Post
Can you provide a source for this? I haven't seen an article about this yet.
Apparently, ABC News reports that he had been treated for Asperger's (near the bottom of the page):

UCSB shooting update: Suspect son of “Hunger Games” assistant director - Salon.com
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:29 PM
 
47,576 posts, read 58,722,338 times
Reputation: 22158
Adam Lanza was also diagnosed with Aspergers.

Adam Lanza Aspergers

I think these are mis-diagnoses and by not acknowledging the true problem, even though they are wealthy, they aren't given the right treatment and/or drugs. In fact they might end up worse because of wrong drugs being given.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:32 PM
 
Location: in my mind
4,616 posts, read 6,120,652 times
Reputation: 9150
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
NBC News - Breaking News & Top Stories - Latest World, US & Local News

Peter Rodgers' attorney told NBC News that Elliot Rodger lived with a form of Asperger syndrome, a disorder on the autism spectrum. There is no known link between Asperger's and violent behavior.
Thanks.

Whenever this issue comes up (violent behavior and a mental disorder) I think it is important to remember that just because the majority of people with "X" diagnosis aren't violent... it doesn't mean that someone with "X" diagnosis can't be capable of violence.

And "X" can be any mental disorder ... Most people with schizophrenia are not violent, but some are. Most people with major depression are not violent, but some are... etc, etc....

Based on his video, I suspected he could be on the spectrum.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:45 PM
 
47,576 posts, read 58,722,338 times
Reputation: 22158
Based on the video, I think he was a psychopath:

The Difference Between Psychopathy & Psychosis

Psychopathy is defined as a personality disorder in which the following traits or exhibited: 1) Glib and superficial charm, 2) Grandiose exaggeration of self, 3) Need for stimulation, 4) Pathological lying, 5) Cunning and manipulativeness, 6) Lack of remorse or guilt, 7) Shallow affect, 8) Callousness and lack of empathy, 9) Parasitic lifestyle, 10) Poor behavioral controls 11) Sexual promiscuity, 12) Early behavior problems, 13) Lack of realistic long-term goals, 14) Impulsivity, 15) Irresponsibility, 16) Failure to accept responsibility for own actions, 17) Many short-term marital relationships, 18) Juvenile delinquency, 19) Revocation of conditional release, 20) Criminal versatility. Furthermore, Psychopaths typically do not show signs of having a conscience and are highly intelligent individuals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The analog world
15,629 posts, read 8,758,135 times
Reputation: 20940
Still think he's NPD sub-type compensatory

Here's Mayo Clinic's general symptom list...

Quote:
Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
I've bolded those I saw clearly displayed in the video and other social media attributed to the suspect.

Last edited by randomparent; 05-24-2014 at 04:57 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
2,706 posts, read 3,134,424 times
Reputation: 6268
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart G. Griffin View Post
Yes, that's him. reports say his father Peter is a director (worked on The Hunger Games) & his mother Soumaya Akaaboune was in Green Zone. The YT video is pretty creepy.

Yet another narcissistic, self entitled kid gone bad

Yet another reason to have greater restrictions pertaining to firearms.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:53 PM
 
47,576 posts, read 58,722,338 times
Reputation: 22158
Quote:
Originally Posted by warren zee View Post
Yet another reason to have greater restrictions pertaining to firearms.
I am beginning to think the liberal elite should not be able to own guns. They seem to be the ones having the problems.

Another mass shooting that didn't have a redneck type involved.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
13,109 posts, read 15,917,498 times
Reputation: 9147
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
I have a feeling the parents noticed something wasn't right but he got misdiagnosed as "Asperger's autism" which is a status symbol diagnosis and people accept that one, but might not accept something like paranoid schizophrenic. So he was probably drugged up with the completely wrong drugs for his condition.
I have a family member with Aspergers and know that it's a really difficult diagnosis. But in the case of my relative, the symptoms and behavior patterns are textbook examples. The most striking thing about people with Aspergers is their high level of intelligence coupled with a near complete inability to socialize with peers. That's obvious with this kid.

As to the level of entitlement, narcissism and misogyny seen among young males today: I see it all the time. I'm in my late 40s but help out occasionally at a bar owned by friends where young twenty-something's and hipsters congregate. The amount of foul talk and disrespect I hear from many of these young men towards women is disturbing. I've caught myself admonishing, correcting and even counseling them (one kid is currently facing a rape charge after picking up a drunk girl one night; he blames her).

It's not just because I'm old; I truly believe the internet and the proliferation of computer porn has desensitized an entire generation of young men toward women and sex. It's very sad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 05:04 PM
 
861 posts, read 944,800 times
Reputation: 927
3 more bodies found inside his apartment.

140 page manifesto sent to news stations by the shooter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2014, 05:05 PM
 
48,519 posts, read 81,048,183 times
Reputation: 17978
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
I have a feeling the parents noticed something wasn't right but he got misdiagnosed as "Asperger's autism" which is a status symbol diagnosis and people accept that one, but might not accept something like paranoid schizophrenic. So he was probably drugged up with the completely wrong drugs for his condition.
Likely he also elf drug. Alcohol and drugs are a dangerous combination for a already mentally ill person. Depressed people often commit suicide from being pushed over the edge.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top