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Old 05-26-2014, 06:15 PM
 
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Should the campus shooter been charged as a juvenile if he survived? That's the only logical conclusion you can come up with if you want to call him a child/kid like every single media outlet and social media outlet is calling him
No, I have not observed "every single media outlet and social media outlet" calling this man a "kid." I don't pay any attention to the different opinion pundits--they don't say anything worth listening to, anyway. But I have not seen any actual news story calling him a "kid"--the only references I've seen to him in news stories have been "student" and "man."

I do agree, however, that from the Boomer generation on, there has been an effort to extend childhood as long as possible. That's why it annoys me to see Boomer men still dressing like adolescent boys instead of like adults.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:37 PM
 
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physically he was a man, mentally he was clearly an adolescent.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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You know, I think one of the worst things the educational system in this country has done is abet adolescence stretching out to about age 25. A century ago, a graduate of eighth grade or high school had the skills to feed and raise a family. Today? No.

Want a bit of perspective? I watched Ken Burns' The War a few years ago on PBS. There were all these guys interviewed who did all kinds of difficult things under terrible circumstances and did them well. Yet they were only 18 or 20. Compare that to today.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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It's totally irrelevant. Or, should be.

No laws should exclude or include a subsection of society.

Each case should be decided on its own factors, not some blanket ruling regarding age.

Get rid of discriminatory laws and the problem of how to charge someone of a perceived minority, is solved.

Charge them APPROPRIATELY - not "one size fits all". Surely our judiciary can manage that...indeed, isn't it what they're paid for...?

ETA: in this case, the shooter is vile, full of hatred, a sociopath at the very least. He should face Murder One due to the planning and pride with which he committed his crimes.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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I heard CNN refer to him as a kid as well yesterday. To people that are over the age of 40, 22 is a kid. I'm 23 and recently a 30 year old man called me a kid because I am college age and he was older.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Possibly.


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Old 05-26-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Manayunk
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He never worked a job, had to pay bills, went on first class trips on his parents dime, bragged about "dressing nice" in designer clothes and $300 sunglasses (parents again), had a $40,000 car, lived rent free, went to college for free, etc. How can anyone that lives that life think of it as "hard" and "poor me"..? Maybe if the parents cut him off and made him work for what he needed and he wasn't such a DB then people would have been his friend. I've met people who had "daddy and mommy" pay for stuff and brag about what they had and I couldn't stand to be around them. Working gives you meaning in life and is the place where I met most of my friends, outside my neighborhood and school growing up.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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It really doesn't matter what CNN or any of the other so-called news outlets call him. In the eyes of the law he would have been considered an adult and tried accordingly. There's a good chance that even if he had been under 21 & not legally an adult, he still could, and probably would, have been tried as an adult considering the premeditated nature of the crime.
The news pundits always have to put some spin or flavor to the story to justify all the airtime they waste.
When the crap gets to deep, I use that nifty little thing called the off-button.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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It really doesn't matter what CNN or any of the other so-called news outlets call him. In the eyes of the law he would have been considered an adult and tried accordingly. There's a good chance that even if he had been under 21 & not legally an adult, he still could, and probably would, have been tried as an adult considering the premeditated nature of the crime.
The news pundits always have to put some spin or flavor to the story to justify all the airtime they waste.
When the crap gets to deep, I use that nifty little thing called the off-button.
In all states, any person 18 or older will automatically be criminally charged as an adult. Twenty-year-olds don't go to into "juvie" anywhere.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:55 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Nope. Old enough to drink, vote, buy a house, serve in the military, own a gun...that's a grownup.
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