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Old 06-21-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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Salt Lake City have the games again? The Olympic Venues from the last time we held the Games are still in use today. It makes sense and I know Salt Lake wants the Games back. What do you think?
I am from Salt Lake and we would love to have the games again.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Facilities aren't really that expensive. It's cities that aren't capable of hosting for other reasons using it as an excuse to build up their infrastructure that makes things expensive.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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I am from Salt Lake and we would love to have the games again.
Salt Lake did an excellent job with the Olympics.....I would LOVE to see them there again.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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There is no reason why the indoor sports usually held as part of the Summer Olympics can't be held during the Winter Olympics. Gymnastics, swimming, fencing, weight lifting, wrestling, a host of other "summer" sports are held indoors. Why does it have to be summer outdoors when the actual events are taking place in venues with roofs and HVAC systems? It would reduce the out-of-control size of the Summer games and build up and diversify the Winter games, making both situations more attractive for some hosts. I'm not suggesting that tennis be played in February, but why can't the gymnastic Olympic competitions, for example, take place during the winter?
But then there would be out of control costs for the winter olympics. The host city for Winter Olympics already needs:

An ice skating arena
An ice hockey arena
A curling arena
A speed skating arena
A bobsled/luge/skeleton track
ski jump
And all the other ski/snowboarding courses that are apart of the Winter Olympics (half pip, freestyle, etc.)

Not to mention they have to build more hotels, Olympic village, etc.

Adding more events would just mean more venues need to be built. They would need an arena for gymnastics, another for swimming, and so on for all the indoor events. And I doubt adding a bunch of events is going to drastically change the amount of people that travel to the games, so it will just mean overall lower ticket sales for all the events. And then you have to consider broadcasting all these extra events. They already don't show enough of a lot of the events. It would be horrible if they had ice skating, gymnastics, swimming, and some of the ski/snowboarding events all competing for air time. You would end up seeing even less of the events then they already show.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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I'm feeling fine and was not splitting hairs. We are a Constitutional Republic.
No, we are a "democratic republic". There is no such thing as a "constitutional republic" except as a codeword for domestic terrorists who hate their country and want to take down the government by force.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Salt Lake did an excellent job with the Olympics.....I would LOVE to see them there again.
Why didn't they try bidding again? Or however the system works.

I'm not really into sports except for watching women's sports to see their firm toned athletic bodies.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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Interesting. The only two plausible remaining candidates -- the other cities having all decided to withdraw their bids, mostly because of local opposition -- are Almaty and Beijing. Neither is exactly a paragon of pluralism.

Nobody Wants To Host The 2022 Olympics

This says a lot about the Olympic Movement, none of it good.
What's interesting is that not even the article you link claims that all other candidates have withdrawn their bids. For example, Oslo - last I checked, Norway is indeed a democracy.
OSLO 2022

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Off topic, but really? By your logic if we call the US a democracy that must mean we think only the "Democrat" Party is somehow the only "true" American party.

We are a republic, that is NOT a democracy, it is quite different! It has nothing to do with the current names of the political parties, and how you got there with your thought process, drawing an inference that that's somehow code to empower Republicans and diss Democrats, is very odd logic IMO.

On topic, I think the Olympics sold out to money interests in the 1970's and 80's, when US pro athletes were allowed to compete to counter eastern bloc professional athletes. I have not had much interest in them for years. The only thing I watch any more is swimming, and that is only because I swam in college and coached youth in that sport for a lot of years.
Only to those ignorant of civics. Our republic is a type of democracy - specifically, a democratic republic. The United States is both a democracy as well as a republic; the latter is a subset of the former, in the way that 'dog' is a subset of 'mammal' (and your silly claim of "republic, not democracy!" is as foolish as someone telling you "My poodle is a dog, not a mammal!").

Words actually have definitions. In the case of the words 'democracy' and 'republic', it is ignorant to think that those definitions are mutually exclusive. They're not.

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re·pub·lic [ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
noun
1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
Republic | Define Republic at Dictionary.com

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de·moc·ra·cy [dih-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
Democracy | Define Democracy at Dictionary.com
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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North Korea should get it.


The massive influx of foreigners wouldn't hurt the Norks; they might find themselves modernizing.
It's pretty damn cold. It's cheap.
That's about all I can think of.
Best post on the thread !! LOL.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte
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DFW had the Super Bowl in 2011. Sold as a big money maker with sales tax revenues, etc. after all was said and done, no financial benefit. Some uptick in sales tax revenue for the area right around the stadium, but revenues were flat or lower elsewhere in DFW as people stayed home instead of getting out around the stadium.

Vancouver BC lost money on the Winter Olympics even when using mostly existing facilities.
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:40 PM
 
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I am from Salt Lake and we would love to have the games again.
If Utah does not get with the program regarding SSM don't look for the Olympics to be coming back to that state anytime soon. If various human rights groups both in the United States and around the world jumped all over Russia you can be sure they'd make some noise about holding the Olympic games in a state that did not want/welcome/allow gay marriage.
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