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Old 06-11-2014, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Congratulations on the most confusing sentence in this topic, and that's an accomplishment..

Are you asking if having a gun makes them more likely to go on a rampage? If so, I'd say probably.

If you're asking if them having a gun makes them more successful.. Probably.
Penn and Teller did an episode of their show BS about gun control..


Penn and Teller: The 2nd Amendment - YouTube

I would have to answer no to both points. The knockout game is a rampage of sorts and no guns are involved.
Explosives would be more successful - look at all of the suicide bombings people do.

Penn Gillette is not my favorite mouthpiece but he hit this nail square on the head. This should be required viewing for anyone not familiar with the Constitution.
98% of Americans?
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Do you realize the 2nd amendment says nothing about individuals having the right to own guns? It talks about the rights for organized militias to bear arms, under the circumstances that were in place back then where we had a fragile government and those militias were necessary to protect ourselves from foreign invaders.
So get it? Sort of like having a little military, where- within the confines of that militia- guns can/should be available.
Before wading into 13 pages of BS to get to this..

This is the amendment in full.

Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The entire amendment addresses firearms in America. It points out the militia needs them and goes on to say the people - citizens - have the inalienable right to keep(own) and bear arms and that right shall not be infringed.

How much easier is it to understand?
Why does the left try to interject something that isn't within that 27 word sentence?

It is a simple concept to understand.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Before wading into 13 pages of BS to get to this..

This is the amendment in full.

Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The entire amendment addresses firearms in America. It points out the militia needs them and goes on to say the people - citizens - have the inalienable right to keep(own) and bear arms and that right shall not be infringed.

How much easier is it to understand?
Why does the left try to interject something that isn't within that 27 word sentence?

It is a simple concept to understand.
And arms is short for armory which I do not have a right to have now do I?
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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And arms is short for armory which I do not have a right to have now do I?
So, when you say a person was armed, they had an entire armory?

No, when someone is armed, they have one or more weapons.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Presumably an amendment can be amended. Why should it be written in stone, if the effect does more harm than good? What suited the time may not suit the present. If enough people have the will, crux, change it.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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So, when you say a person was armed, they had an entire armory?

No, when someone is armed, they have one or more weapons.
I do not have a right to bear arms, but I do have a right to own firearms. Why have my rights been taken away?

Weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please explain why my right to arm myself is not allowed?
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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Presumably an amendment can be amended. Why should it be written in stone, if the effect does more harm than good? What suited the time may not suit the present. If enough people have the will, crux, change it.
It doesn't do more harm than good.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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I do not have a right to bear arms, but I do have a right to own firearms. Why have my rights been taken away?

Weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please explain why my right to arm myself is not allowed?
Armed - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Bear - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arm


Fail!
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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You didn't fail Pedro, and I think you're getting this!

"Armed = furnished with weapons <an armed guard>; also : using or involving a weapon"

Can I own chemical weapons?
Can I have automatic firearms?
How about rocket launchers?

Pedro,
Why have my 2nd amendment rights been trampled on, and do you approve?
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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Oh my goodness. Why can't these kind of things stop???
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