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Old 06-13-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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im not sure if you are pretending to be missing my point or if you really are missing it. I don't vote on a guy based on whether or not they oppose/support invading Iraq. I personally place the most importance on domestic economic issues. other people may care more about abortion, drug legalization, constitutional law, gay marriage, immigration, etc. etc. etc. or any combination of issues. your post "well, McCain supports invading countries and liberals wouldn't have invaded Iraq" says nothing about which group should control government. but you seem to think it does.
It affects domestic issues. Check out the price tag of the war(tax dollars)
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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And multiply that cost times a thousand if McCain were President since we'd be doing occupying and nation building(while our infrastructure needs work) in MORE countries and would never leave.
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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im not a liberal, im a tea party member.
I am not a member but I like what the Tea Party stands for.
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:45 AM
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Same thing I don't get that is happening in Libya.
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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im not sure if you are pretending to be missing my point or if you really are missing it. I don't vote on a guy based on whether or not they oppose/support invading Iraq. I personally place the most importance on domestic economic issues. other people may care more about abortion, drug legalization, constitutional law, gay marriage, immigration, etc. etc. etc. or any combination of issues. your post "well, McCain supports invading countries and liberals wouldn't have invaded Iraq" says nothing about which group should control government. but you seem to think it does.
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It affects domestic issues. Check out the price tag of the war(tax dollars)
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And multiply that cost times a thousand if McCain were President since we'd be doing occupying and nation building(while our infrastructure needs work) in MORE countries and would never leave.
CaptainNJ, if you really care about domestic issues, then you should be agreeing with lizardtastic because he/she is right.

You can't spend the same dollar on bombs and bridges, something has to be neglected.
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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I am not a member but I like what the Tea Party stands for.
What do you think the Tea Party stands for?
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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It affects domestic issues. Check out the price tag of the war(tax dollars)
i cant believe you are seriously sticking to this line. im not saying there is zero impact on domestic issues. but its still one of very many issues and those many of those other issues are more important than the decision to invade Iraq (which was a bad decision) Its amazing how some people seem to think the Iraq invasion is the biggest thing in the universe. Im guessing its gwb hate and that's the issue that comes to your mind fastest when you want to hate him.
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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CaptainNJ, if you really care about domestic issues, then you should be agreeing with lizardtastic because he/she is right.

You can't spend the same dollar on bombs and bridges, something has to be neglected.
I don't support the spending or the debt, but seriously if our budget is something about 40% debt spending what is being neglected because money is being spent in iraq? it seems like we don't have money to cover our spending and yet we still manage to spend almost half using debt.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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I don't support the spending or the debt, but seriously if our budget is something about 40% debt spending what is being neglected because money is being spent in iraq? it seems like we don't have money to cover our spending and yet we still manage to spend almost half using debt.
What is being neglected is our infrastructure.

We have bridges that have collapsed (like the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis in 2007) or are on the verge of catastrophic failure (like the I-495 bridge in Delaware). We have retaining walls collapsing (like the one in Baltimore recently). We have had catastrophic train derailments, pipeline ruptures, dam and levee breeches, and countless other infrastructure failures.

Obviously, these disruptions have a very negative effect on the commerce and economy of the United States but investing the trillions of dollars that are desperately needed to correct these deficiencies would go a long way towards breaking the remaining economic stagnation and drastically lowering the unemployment rate.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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What is being neglected is our infrastructure.

We have bridges that have collapsed (like the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis in 2007) or are on the verge of catastrophic failure (like the I-495 bridge in Delaware). We have retaining walls collapsing (like the one in Baltimore recently). We have had catastrophic train derailments, pipeline ruptures, dam and levee breeches, and countless other infrastructure failures.

Obviously, these disruptions have a very negative effect on the commerce and economy of the United States but investing the trillions of dollars that are desperately needed to correct these deficiencies would go a long way towards breaking the remaining economic stagnation and drastically lowering the unemployment rate.
you understand my point right? when your spending is 40% debt financed, how can you pretend that one thing is getting money from another thing? its all just borrowed money. if they wanted, they could borrow more for that infrastructure spending.
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