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Old 12-26-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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Idiot on a donor cycle put HIS CHILD on same donor cycle and then speeds and doesn't bother to pay attention...and SHE deserves 20 years?

What about father of the year?
Riding a motorcycle is not a criminal act. Stopping on the highway for no legitimate reason in a fast/passing lane as if it were a parking space might be.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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Idiot on a donor cycle put HIS CHILD on same donor cycle and then speeds and doesn't bother to pay attention...and SHE deserves 20 years?

What about father of the year?
He's already serving his sentence. Unfortunately, so is the child.

Last edited by RestArea; 12-26-2015 at 03:40 PM..
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Riding a motorcycle is not a criminal act. Stopping on the highway for no legitimate reason in a fast/passing lane as if it were a parking space might be.
They would have been just as dead if she'd stopped for a legitimate reason.
His ***** poor decision making was just as much as at fault as hers.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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No intent, not murder. Perhaps you meant homicide or manslaughter?
No, I meant essentially murdered.

Did she not intend to illegally stop in the passing lane in order to "help" ducklings that she perceived as motherless? I'm not Canadian and don't know the finer points of their laws, hence the qualifier essentially.

BTW, in most places homicide is simply death at the hands of another, which may or may not be a crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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So why in the world did the (speeding) moron run into a stopped car?

Some serious Darwin going on here.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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No, I meant essentially murdered.

Did she not intend to illegally stop in the passing lane in order to "help" ducklings that she perceived as motherless? I'm not Canadian and don't know the finer points of their laws, hence the qualifier essentially.

BTW, in most places homicide is simply death at the hands of another, which may or may not be a crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide
Murder usually requires intent to take the life. Intending to stop her car where she did is not the same as intending to take someone's life. Most likely she was not thinking of the possible consequences.
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Old 12-26-2015, 04:15 PM
 
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So why in the world did the (speeding) moron run into a stopped car?

Some serious Darwin going on here.
Here's a thought: Read the article before posting stupid nonsense.

He was traveling at the prevailing speed of traffic. While he was technically speeding, driving faster or slower than the prevailing speed of traffic is more dangerous than blind adherence to an arbitrary number on a sign. He ran into the stopped car because the vehicle in front of him swerved out of the way at the last second and he didn't have time to stop. He's clearly guilty of following too closely, but the court determined, rightfully so, that the car stopped IN THE MIDDLE OF A HIGHWAY contributed to the accident. You sound like a great driver (not).

I suspect that if the article hadn't mentioned he was on a motorcycle, some of you wouldn't be nearly so quick to blame him. Inflammatory phrases like "donor cycle" reveal you for the petty, hateful people you are.
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Old 12-26-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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Has nothing to do with it being a motorcycle. Just that was bound to make it all become sudden death for them.

I have had folks run into the back of my truck (while they were texting) with a car -- because traffic suddenly slowed down and stopped on highways in city (Dallas) areas.

Tailgating and/or not keeping needed distance to stop, and/or speeding, and/or not looking ahead = you are going to have a bad time.

Really just how stupid do you have to be to run into a stopped car?

Real Question.
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Old 12-26-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Wondering the same thing myself. She essentially murdered two innocent people in order to "do good." She deserves 20 years.

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Old 12-26-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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Here's a thought: Read the article before posting stupid nonsense.

He was traveling at the prevailing speed of traffic. While he was technically speeding, driving faster or slower than the prevailing speed of traffic is more dangerous than blind adherence to an arbitrary number on a sign. He ran into the stopped car because the vehicle in front of him swerved out of the way at the last second and he didn't have time to stop. He's clearly guilty of following too closely, but the court determined, rightfully so, that the car stopped IN THE MIDDLE OF A HIGHWAY contributed to the accident. You sound like a great driver (not).

I suspect that if the article hadn't mentioned he was on a motorcycle, some of you wouldn't be nearly so quick to blame him. Inflammatory phrases like "donor cycle" reveal you for the petty, hateful people you are.
So...you're saying that you don't keep an eye on the traffic around you, including the road far ahead as well as immediately in front, to the sides, and behind?

I do that in a car. I always have an escape option. Anything can happen. A sudden stop ( happened to me when someone decided to stop in a 70 mile per hour road because they were in the wrong lane for the toll booth), something falling off a truck (happens all the time), people weaving and cutting in front of you...

Things happen split second all the time on my 54 mile commute (most of which is on I35). People are effin' stupid and cell phones made it worse.

Ironically, I learned to drive hyper-aware and two steps ahead BECAUSE I have a motorcycle. So no motorcycle prejudice from me. Most deaths on those things are driver's error, and this was no exception.

This was a terrible tragedy. But prosecuting the stopped car makes no sense. It could have been stopped there for a thousand reasons and the same outcome would have come to pass.
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