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Old 06-26-2014, 03:49 AM
 
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Since when did love have an agenda?
It's about pushing acceptance of sexual immorality. It's very similar to the issue of acceptance of prostitution.
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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The "gay agenda"? What is that, anyway? I don't see asking to be treated fairly as an agenda- it's a basic request for equal human rights! I suppose lots of people were sick of the "black agenda" back in the days of the civil rights movement, too.
Please explain what "being gay" is other than a sexual/life partner preference.

I am so sick of hearing about it; people need to get over themselves. We have so many more pressing and important issues going on. "Marry" who you want, love who you want as long as you're both adults, and leave the rest of us alone. We're going to think whatever we wish to think about it.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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It's fascinating.

Once Americans railed against imposed taxes and orders from afar issued by mad kings. At least that mad nut invested the Crown in the Colonies. Do modern Starbuck's franchises count when our dear plebes demand other places drop their culture so their frozen milkshake taste sweeter?

Nowadays, everyone on the planet must kneel to the latte and tablet set all out to command the world in what is right and wrong from a narrow POV and a smug pulpit totally lacking in respect for diversity in cultures not their own. They just want a homogenous groupface to reflect the appropriated beliefs they've ingested as a sort of comfort food, not diversity.

America's obesity epidemic is one of the mind too.
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So how many of these 'right-minded people' want to send troops to these countries to force upon them what our culture sees as naturally right for them to do? I mean, that's how we get this freedom thing done right, right 'right-minders'?

You folks hate the Cheneys and Bushes but you'd be more than happy to put the boot of tyranny down on someone else simply to ease your unnecessarily troubled minds as to what their people may or may not want. Do you think humanity is imperfect just so you may save it? Sounds awfully like traditional Christian missionary work to me. How many of you folks in this thread will be signing up for the crusade?

That's the problem with all this 'proactive' busybody social theory is that you have a tendency to become exactly like those whom you claim oppress you and you never notice. It really is none of your business if Saudi Arabia doesn't want trannys walking down the street or if Polish women want to keep wearing babushkas.

It. Is. None. Of. Your. Business.

Should this ramshackle empire ever lose its luster, you wouldn't like it if someplace else tells you how to live. Believe me, all these 'rights' shoved into your heads are mere hopeful illusions. Be thankful you have them when you do. And tolerate (you have heard of the word) other places and other peoples or stop lying about the agenda.
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You simply do not understand and neither do your comrades: It isn't your business to culturally assimilate another place simply because it makes you feel good while shouting how wonderful diversity is. If you celebrate diversity you must celebrate that which you may not like. There is no alternative even if feel-good academics stay mum on the subject as the car salesperson says nothing of the defects in a used car. They are just doing their jobs spinning, selling and convincing. Tenure ain't cheap.

Just as much, other places shouldn't be pillaged for their resources like Iraq.

And why invoke the 'Third Reich'? I think because at the end of it all that is akin to what progressives actually want, without knowing it of course because their wishes are really sweet. There is no right to be either happy/unhappy, healthy/unhealthy. Laws made to 'increase utility' sound interesting. What sort of laws will increase utility and how will they do so and utility in accomplishing what exactly, busy profit-earning for a corporate hierarchy? Thriving, functioning society on all levels despite (Oh progressives and your hate for your fellow human!) the 'accident of birth'. Planned societies will certainly remove any of that errant diversity that feels wrong, eh? I don't know what makes 'current power structures' ignorant. Any power structure seeks to create more power to use it, transport it or maintain it. That is what they accomplish. How is that ignorant? Moral relativism?

And sanctions. Make them suffer until they cave in to our demands! Send in the UN, IMF, WHO and whatever other collection of letters to inform them that in order to get money and attention they must do this, this and this so that they can be 'on the same page' with us. Yet these same tactics are usually considered extortion under different situations that don't involve instilling our sense of rights unto a culture we see as 'unfortunate'.

But I agree with you 100% at the end. Sanctions and embargoes on all the rich, ALL THE RICH! They simply are not on the same page with me and they aren't on your page either as all they want is to enlarge their current power structure by any means necessary and homogeneity is the easiest way to create new markets and if you can make 'diversity' trinkets into a special interest item like so many different Pokémon that must be caught.



Agreed! So what makes European or American virtues necessary exports to other places if not internal vanity and comfort (and to grow 'current power structures' elsewhere)?
What?
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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That's no surprise--it appears to be the "line that must be toed" within the Obama administration. Don't forget his recently-appointed EEOC commisioner, Chai Feldblum, who's said that "gay rights trump religious freedom," and whose priority of hers it is (according to her) to mandate that religious services be conducted for same-sex couples, if requested.

Good luck with that, lady.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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How about everyone mind their own business.

It's not my business. Until people make it my business.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:30 AM
 
Location: MN
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Are diplomats forced to engage in homosexuality? Poor attempt at posting a reply.
Ooo aren't you clever! No cigar, again.

The fact politicians use advocates to further a cause or a message seems to elude you. Politicians depend on "advocates" to place pressure and even cultural change on their own countries. When Biden was speaking to these people, he was by extension telling their governments to change in a manner he saw as acceptable. It doesn't have to be a "gay issue" for this to be questionable. To think this is simply about one issue is quite short-sighted. History has shown us these things are never about one issue.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: MN
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Please explain what "being gay" is other than a sexual/life partner preference.

I am so sick of hearing about it; people need to get over themselves. We have so many more pressing and important issues going on. "Marry" who you want, love who you want as long as you're both adults, and leave the rest of us alone. We're going to think whatever we wish to think about it.
But we're not allowed to think differently, ever. We're supposed to be tolerant of everything and better change our minds if we know what's best for us...wait that defeats the purpose of tolerance.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Civil Rights trump Culture. A Civil Marriage License is a CONTRACT and not the sacred, holy, sacrament of Matrimony. If it were the latter, then Non-Christian and Athiest Straight Couples should be banned from marriage also. Want to go there?
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: MN
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Civil Rights trump Culture. A Civil Marriage License is a CONTRACT and not the sacred, holy, sacrament of Matrimony. If it were the latter, then Non-Christian and Athiest Straight Couples should be banned from marriage also. Want to go there?
Well that's funny, because a lot of cultures and non-Christian religions don't give a crap about what the government has to say about state-recognized marriage.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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But we're not allowed to think differently, ever. We're supposed to be tolerant of everything and better change our minds if we know what's best for us...wait that defeats the purpose of tolerance.
You can think whatever you want. However, what you think should have no bearing on whether gays can marry each other. Period.
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