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Old 08-01-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Wow people are really freaking out over this. We need to take action & are, but it's not worth panicking over.
Any hospital in the U.S. could likely treat a patient with ebola since it's standard contact precautions that all hospitals are supposed to follow. There's nothing special about the isolation they would need in a U.S. hospital. As a healthcare worker I've seen patients with far scarier diseases regarding transmission concerns. I'm more concerned about the flu actually. Ebola has been around since the 70's & how many have died? Africa is still in existence. It hasn't been wiped away.

Hasn't anybody played the Plague Inc. game? To wipe a country out the disease should be airborne, with no symptoms. That's not ebola. Not even close.


Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC

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Here read this & calm down.
Ebola Outbreak 'Not in the Cards' for U.S., CDC Director Says - NBC News
They are still doing research on transmission. The study in 2012 showed pig to primate transmission, highly suspected through airborne droplets.

If the CDC knew more, they would still keep it to themselves to avoid a public panic, IMO.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sawyer was on his way to Minnesota. If he hadn't gotten violently ill on the plane, he would have arrived in the USA.
If Sawyer hadn't stopped over to attend his sister's funeral then he just might have made it back to the US before getting sick.

He make it through 2 plane trips before showing symptoms.
2 of the people that helped him off the plane are under watch as they have fevers now..he collapsed when leaving the plane after it landed.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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CDC issued a travel warning yesterday and they are taking it seriously. As West Africa Ebola outbreak worsens, CDC issues Level 3 Travel Warning | Press Release | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

Other than isolation, is there anything the general public can do to protect themselves? Lots of additional hand washing, not touching public surfaces, etc.? Is a general level of good health helpful in not becoming affected? Sometimes a cold virus will not affect folks if they are healthy, is there any indication that the ebola virus follows the same pattern?

In some places, such as Japan and some areas of China, it is common for folks to wear a breath mask when they have a cold. Folks there will also routinely have a handkerchief to handle public surfaces with. How would folks in areas not used to seeing the casual use of breath masks react to seeing them in use?
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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CDC issued a travel warning yesterday and they are taking it seriously. As West Africa Ebola outbreak worsens, CDC issues Level 3 Travel Warning | Press Release | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

Other than isolation, is there anything the general public can do to protect themselves? Lots of additional hand washing, not touching public surfaces, etc.? Is a general level of good health helpful in not becoming affected? Sometimes a cold virus will not affect folks if they are healthy, is there any indication that the ebola virus follows the same pattern?

In some places, such as Japan and some areas of China, it is common for folks to wear a breath mask when they have a cold. Folks there will also routinely have a handkerchief to handle public surfaces with. How would folks in areas not used to seeing the casual use of breath masks react to seeing them in use?
There's really not much you can do except be aware of your surroundings.

2-21 day incubation.
Houston, Atlanta and NYC are airports that receive direct flights from Africa.
I trust our airport screens over Africa where I've read they are just bribing the military to get past the checkpoints.

And honestly if there is a breakout the best is to self isolate yourself and let it play out.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Work in NYC - Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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As cruel as it sounds and from a non-medical POV, I do not agree with CDC's decision to bring the two Ebola-inflicted Americans back to the US soil. Based on what I read, this is the first time ever there is a known case of a person / persons with Ebola on our land.
As much precautions as they have, a small mistake from one personnel in Emory could be catastrophic. A doctor from Emory unknowingly infected by the virus. He then goes home and on the way home he goes to his gym in Buckhead and then goes to Kroger to buy grocery. Think how many people will be exposed.
After all one of these two Americans is a social worker who is specialized helping Ebola patients in Africa. I assume due to the notorious of the disease, he has certain precautionary protocol and guidelines handling the patients. Yet, he got infected.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by everwinter View Post
Wow people are really freaking out over this. We need to take action & are, but it's not worth panicking over.
Any hospital in the U.S. could likely treat a patient with ebola since it's standard contact precautions that all hospitals are supposed to follow. There's nothing special about the isolation they would need in a U.S. hospital. As a healthcare worker I've seen patients with far scarier diseases regarding transmission concerns. I'm more concerned about the flu actually. Ebola has been around since the 70's & how many have died? Africa is still in existence. It hasn't been wiped away.

Hasn't anybody played the Plague Inc. game? To wipe a country out the disease should be airborne, with no symptoms. That's not ebola. Not even close.


Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC

Also see here
Here read this & calm down.
Ebola Outbreak 'Not in the Cards' for U.S., CDC Director Says - NBC News
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If Sawyer hadn't stopped over to attend his sister's funeral then he just might have made it back to the US before getting sick.

He make it through 2 plane trips before showing symptoms.
2 of the people that helped him off the plane are under watch as they have fevers now..he collapsed when leaving the plane after it landed.
I believe he had full blown diarrhea and vomiting on the plane.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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These are the official quarantine treatment centers in the US:

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/us...ations-new.pdf
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Uh huh, uh huh. Because our hospitals right now are soooo good at keeping things sanitized and not teeming with all kinds of nasty bacteria that could be eliminated if they actually, you know, cleaned properly
Bacteria Show Up in Hospital Rooms, Again | TIME.com
Resistant Germs May Survive Hospital Cleaning
Hospital Superbugs: New Report Shows Alarming Increase In Antibiotic-Resistant Germs
Hospital garb harbors nasty bacteria, study says - Health - Infectious diseases | NBC News

Yea, I reaaaallllly trust those guys to contain a deadly infectious virus....


Bacteria and viruses are not interchangeable. Bacteria can survive for months, in some cases years and decades outside of a host. Viruses are unable to reproduce without a host and typically survive for a matter of hours. Huge difference there. But don't let that get in the way of some good old fashioned fearmongering.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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As cruel as it sounds and from a non-medical POV, I do not agree with CDC's decision to bring the two Ebola-inflicted Americans back to the US soil. Based on what I read, this is the first time ever there is a known case of a person / persons with Ebola on our land.
As much precautions as they have, a small mistake from one personnel in Emory could be catastrophic. A doctor from Emory unknowingly infected by the virus. He then goes home and on the way home he goes to his gym in Buckhead and then goes to Kroger to buy grocery. Think how many people will be exposed.



None of that has in any actual basis in reality. Ebola, prior to becoming symptomatic, is nearly impossible to transmit. Its not like the flu where you can infect others before ever showing symptoms. Its just hyperbole-driven fantasy.



Personally I'd be far more concerned about catching MRSA from cutting myself while at the gym or grocery store.

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Old 08-01-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If Ebola ever arrived on a flight to Manhattan, the entire population of North America would be decimated by 50 to 70% in a matter of weeks.



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