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Old 08-06-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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It's kind of sad, really. Doctors Without Borders has been raising the alarm, asking for help on this outbreak for weeks, but nobody seemed to care until first-world countries were perceived to be at-risk. Now the World Bank is suddenly releasing millions of dollars to fight the spread.
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: FROM Dixie, but IN SoCal
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Those folks will need the discipline to tell a father he can not go home to his family. When that man turns around he will likely park his pickup down the road, take his scoped rifle and go over the ridge to his family. Woe be to the "authority" who tries to stop him on his home ground. If a pair of civilians is seen guarding that father's route home, just as soon as the first "authority's" head disappears as a cloud of red mist...
You know something? That can easily be interpreted as a statement of intent. That you have posted it here on this public forum makes it available to any aspiring Assistant District Attorney who thinks to look here, should the need arise.

I'm really glad you are in Northern Maine and I'm way over here in Southern California.
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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3,000 a day die from Malaria. Perspective is everything I think.
Malaria is treatable. Perspective, indeed.
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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if they could just find that monkey, they could make a vaccine that will cure everyone with ebola!
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Malaria is treatable. Perspective, indeed.


And yet every day more people die from it than have died from decades worth of Ebola outbreaks.
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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if they could just find that monkey, they could make a vaccine that will cure everyone with ebola!



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Old 08-06-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Malaria is treatable. Perspective, indeed.
"In 2012, there were about 207 million malaria cases (with an uncertainty range of 135 million to 287 million) and an estimated 627,000 malaria deaths (with an uncertainty range of 473 000 to 789 000)."

I guess it wasn't so treatable for the 627,000 people that died of it last year.
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Old 08-06-2014, 06:52 PM
 
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no silly, this monkey:

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Old 08-06-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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here he is being released into the wild by one of the first ebola victims.

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Old 08-06-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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But Ebola isn't even in the same ballpark concerning contagiousness, it's so much less. Most flus are very contagious but not especially deadly ..... Ebola is exactly the reverse, deadly but it doesn't spread that easily where public hygiene is good.
If Ebola "doesn't spread that easily where public hygiene is good" how is it that doctors that wear HAZMAT suits and take every precaution to avoid infection are developing the disease?

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The 1918 Spanish Influenza was BOTH very contagious and very deadly. It was a mutation of ordinary flu, which is why I said we have more to fear from mutated flus than Ebola.
Spanish Flu killed more people than the Black Plague of Europe. Attempting to downplay the Ebola threat by comparing the two is like trying to downplay the danger of the 16 kiloton Hiroshima bomb by comparing it to a 40 megaton ICBM.

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However it is a bit worrisome to me that this particular outbreak appears at first glance to be a bit more contagious than earlier versions, judging by the numbers and speed of spreading.
The reason why this Ebola outbreak seems "much more contagious" is because Ebola has historically affected remote areas of Africa with little to no infrastructure. As such, the Ebola victims dies long before they could be transported to a major urban center. Unfortunately, this time around it is affecting a major urban center and we are seeing the beginnings of what could potentially be a major pandemic if the outbreak is not contained ASAP.

Let's not fool ourselves... Ebola spreads by contact with bodily fluids (including saliva and mucus) of an infected person, and the initial stages of the disease mimic simple cold and flu symptoms. This means that should Ebola make it to North America, the average North American would not even consider Ebola infection as a possibility of their symptoms. They could easily sneeze and cough all over new victims for days before the disease progresses to the point that they become diagnosed, and by that time we could have a major epidemic on our hands. The reason flu spreads among kids so easily is for these exact reasons. Kids don't take precautions to avoid infection. They wipe their noses with their hands and touch doorknobs without washing and before you know it the entire class is sniffling. Unfortunately with Ebola, that sniffling translates into a death sentence for 70 to 90% of those who get infected.

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"In 2012, there were about 207 million malaria cases (with an uncertainty range of 135 million to 287 million) and an estimated 627,000 malaria deaths (with an uncertainty range of 473 000 to 789 000)."

I guess it wasn't so treatable for the 627,000 people that died of it last year.
Try some intellectual honesty. How many of those 627,000 malaria victims died in First World countries with easy access to anti-malarial treatments?
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