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Old 06-28-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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I have to say I hadn't read the link prior to my post, and I agree it should all be transparent and they should be forced to show their records.
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Old 06-28-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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http://www.redcross.org/images/MEDIA...d_with_IRS.pdf

Non/Profits have to file with the IRS every year. ... Yes that was Lois Lerner department...
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Old 06-28-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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I have to say I hadn't read the link prior to my post, and I agree it should all be transparent and they should be forced to show their records.
Do you feel the same for all non profits? Churches, political organizations filing 501c exemptions? Or do you just want to single certain ones?
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Old 06-28-2014, 07:31 PM
 
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Do you feel the same for all non profits? Churches, political organizations filing 501c exemptions? Or do you just want to single certain ones?
All of them, why would I single Red Cross out, especially after I wrote a pretty glowing post about them a few posts ago?
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Old 06-28-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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I would donate to Salvation Army
I wouldn't.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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I don't know, all I know is they are usually the first ones on the scene for disasters big and small. While we were evacuating for Sandy, Red Cross volunteers were driving into the danger, to man shelters for people who couldn't evacuate. They were there to help find housing for people the next day too, and 3 weeks later trying to find generators for people.

I also had a co-worker whose home burned down in the night, and the Red Cross people were there while firemen were still on the scene, finding a hotel room for the family, then the next day a rental, clothes, food, etc.

They are also responsible for just about every pint of blood that someone gets in this country, and teach CPR and lifesaving classes to millions of people every day, saving who knows how many lives. I don't know if their practices are better or worse than any other very large organization, but I think they do a great job overall and have no idea who would replace them if they were no longer around.
They weren't on Staten Island.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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They weren't on Staten Island.
I only know about south Jersey
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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They can't be expected to be everywhere during every disaster. The OP expects them to help do sand bags at a flood. Others think they should be present every single mile of a disaster that covered hundreds of miles. Others chimed in that they did not see them at their location. Others think they should have free classes. Others think that the volunteers, some not young, should be arriving with the storm.

They do not just do the big disasters. How many house fires have they been to in the last 24 hours? How many blood drives have taken place in the last 24 hours?

The OP has an agenda. Or he just doesn't realize how big this country is and how many things go wrong every single day.

And number 1. No one is forced to donate.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Seems like every time there's a disaster, the reporters are still standing in the rubble or the gale winds, and the Red Cross is on the air raising money.

Then, whether it's 9/11, Katrina, Hurricane Sandy, or you-name-it disaster, the folks on the ground wonder where the heck is the Red Cross.

Friend who was organizing sandbagging crews during the floods in Cedar Rapids said they were watching TV one weary night and on comes an appeal to donate to the Red Cross, but none of them had seen any Red Cross volunteers helping them out. Eventually, the Red Cross was there handing out sandwiches wrapped in plastic wrap, but by then the Rainbow people had been dishing out homemade soup and chili for nearly a week.

After 9/11, there was something of a scandal about how the Red Cross had raised all this money for 9/11 victims but then didn't allocate it. I believe their excuse was they were banking it for future disasters.

Folks doing disaster relief for Hurricane Sandy, were stunned to learn of all the things the Red Cross reported doing. In fact, I believe the Red Cross called their response "flawless." The folks on the ground termed it "invisible."
The problem with the Red Cross | Felix Salmon

Now, the Red Cross is fighting a Freedom of Information Act request about its handling of Hurricane Sandy-related fund on the grounds that such information is a "trade secret."

Red Cross attorneys claim that if they revealed their procedures for fundraising and confidential financial information including methods of allocating said moneys, their competitors would be able to mimic their business model.

Red Cross spending lawsuit: Charity fights Freedom of Information Act filing.

Given that the Red Cross constantly appeals to all of us for money, it would seem that being open about how much money they raise and how this money is spent should be made readily available.

Unless, of course, there is something else going on.

Anyone know what that could be?
( regarding 4th paragraph )...............it seems after nearly every major disaster, a scandal in the Red Cross is uncovered and the director is asked to step down.

I remember the aftermath of 9/11 real well. When the United Way Campaign pledges were distributed where I work, we were told we could check off a special Red Cross slot and those donations would go directly to family members of victims of 9/11.
Most workers directed their donations there, thus local donations nearly dried up.

Yet, months after 9/11 many families of 9/11 victims had not received one penny of that money from the Red Cross. The head of the Red Cross said millions $$$$$$$$$$ of that money was banked to....." shore up our offices in Europe "

They then denied they ever said you could donate to a victim fund via Red Cross.
That director was asked to resign !!!!!!!!!!!!!

It got so bad, local chapters of the Red Cross in MN were stating in their fundraising that no money collected would end up in the hands of the ... national... Red Cross ..

After Katrina.......................another investigation and another director asked to resign.

My charitable donations go to other entities who are not already drowning in cash donations and are arrogant when questioned where/how the funds are distributed.

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Old 06-30-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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They can't be expected to be everywhere during every disaster. The OP expects them to help do sand bags at a flood. Others think they should be present every single mile of a disaster that covered hundreds of miles. Others chimed in that they did not see them at their location. Others think they should have free classes. Others think that the volunteers, some not young, should be arriving with the storm.

They do not just do the big disasters. How many house fires have they been to in the last 24 hours? How many blood drives have taken place in the last 24 hours?

The OP has an agenda. Or he just doesn't realize how big this country is and how many things go wrong every single day.

And number 1. No one is forced to donate.
Why is their director asked to resign after major events hit ?
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