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Old 07-02-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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They don't have to ask what their religion is. They could ask what benefits the job offers. Most jobs disclose this information before you begin working.
No. Never have I gone to a job interview & the interviewer disclosed the details of the benefits they provide. Nor have I known beforehand what insurance a company uses. How exactly would you find that information? Nor would I ever ask the details of the benefits provided in a job interview. That's a great way to not get hired.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:39 AM
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No. Never have I gone to a job interview & the interviewer disclosed the details of the benefits they provide.

I said before you start working not during the interview. I always ask for the benefits package before I start my job, but that's just me.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I said before you start working not during the interview.
See my edited post.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:46 AM
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See my edited post.

You do it once you are offered the job. I know myself and a lot of people do this. In several offer letters I have received, my pay along with whatever benefits were offered were disclosed. And if they weren't I asked, especially because I need vision insurance so I have to make sure that is offered. A lot of companies even have this information listed on their HR website for you to sign up for once you are offered a job and it will give you detailed information on what procedures/prescriptions are covered. In one case this information wasn't provided to me up front but I did know who the insurance provider was. I then called the insurance carrier and was directed to their website in which I put in my employers name and location and then it pulled up everything that the carrier covered for that particular companies employees.....even down to a comprehensive prescription list.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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[quote=PJA;35480333]They don't have to ask what their religion is. They could ask what benefits the job offers. Most jobs disclose this information before you begin working. I know before I had many of my jobs I investigated the insurance to make sure it was sufficient for me and my family. I have turned down jobs before because the benefits were not sufficient.[/quo

Medical case for you. My doctor put me on the Pill back in 1960 when I was a 12 year old school girl. For birth control? lol I had extremely painful, very heavy prolonged periods every single month. Because of this, I not only missed a lot of school (I couldn't stand up), but I was severely anemic.

The doctor said taking the Pill (called it hormones back then) was the better option. The alternative was to go into the hospital for a D&C (scraping my uterus out) and have blood tranfusions for the anemia.

So now a religious employer would refuse that? Contraceptives (the Pill) are against my religion. No D&C either because that is ABORTION. Well, I suppose my doctor would have to submit his prognosis to my DAD's boss for his approval stating that none of these options had anything to do with birth control or abortion? I can tell you my Dad would have been furious over that. His child's illness was none of his boss's business.

None of those drugs, or surgery, is covered in our health insurance because we are a RELIGIOUS company. Pay for all that EVIL with your own $$$? Or, just let your child die, because she was unfortunately born female?

Your, or your family member's, medical conditions are now your boss's business? HE makes medical decisions now too? Does HIPPA go out the door too?
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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What's hypocritical about that? They don't like two types of birth control that may prevent a fertilized egg from implanting into the uterus. They consider that a type of abortion. They don't have any problems with normal birth control pills, shots, suppositories, etc, or surgical sterilization.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:56 AM
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They don't have to ask what their religion is. They could ask what benefits the job offers. Most jobs disclose this information before you begin working. I know before I had many of my jobs I investigated the insurance to make sure it was sufficient for me and my family. I have turned down jobs before because the benefits were not sufficient.[/quo

Medical case for you. My doctor put me on the Pill back in 1960 when I was a 12 year old school girl. For birth control? lol I had extremely painful, very heavy prolonged periods every single month. Because of this, I not only missed a lot of school (I couldn't stand up), but I was severely anemic.

The doctor said taking the Pill (called it hormones back then) was the better option. The alternative was to go into the hospital for a D&C (scraping my uterus out) and have blood tranfusions for the anemia.

So now a religious employer would refuse that? Contraceptives (the Pill) are against my religion. No D&C either because that is ABORTION. Well, I suppose my doctor would have to submit his prognosis to my DAD's boss for his approval stating that none of these options had anything to do with birth control or abortion? I can tell you my Dad would have been furious over that. His child's illness was none of his boss's business.

None of those drugs, or surgery, is covered in our health insurance because we are a RELIGIOUS company. Pay for all that EVIL with your own $$$? Or, just let your child die, because she was unfortunately born female?

Your, or your family member's, medical conditions are now your boss's business? HE makes medical decisions now too? Does HIPPA go out the door too?

Your medical conditions are not your bosses business. Your boss doesn't need to know whether you are taking a bc pill or not. You are perfectly capable of going out on your own buying what you need without losing your job over it. Just because they are not covering doesn't mean they care whether you take it or not...they just won't be paying for it. Just like they don't pay for a lot of other things I mentioned.

My employer stopped covering several things (advair, orthodontics) and didn't even need a religious reason to do so. It was their choice. What's sad is companies have to now use freedom of religion to run their businesses as they see fit when they shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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What's hypocritical about that? They don't like two types of birth control that may prevent a fertilized egg from implanting into the uterus. They consider that a type of abortion. They don't have any problems with normal birth control pills, shots, suppositories, etc, or surgical sterilization.
Because sometimes terminating a pregnancy has a lot more to do with a woman's health than not wanting a baby.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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Because sometimes terminating a pregnancy has a lot more to do with a woman's health than not wanting a baby.
But what does that have to do with Viagra and vasectomies, which were what you used as the basis of your hypocritical comment?
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