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Old 07-18-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Please get yourself educated & quit listening to lies. IUD's & the morning after are not abortifacients. I am not going to say it again, get it thru your head, ok?
Sorry, you are going to have to say it again, as will I--even the FDA (as did the Obama administration in its brief) defines morning after pill and IUDs (which prevent implantation of a fertilized egg) that way, so you can chuck the "educate yourself if you disagree with me" attitude.

There's also nothing in that decision that restricts women's access to health care. Sandra Fluke simply has to pay for her own recreational sex.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Sorry, you are going to have to say it again, as will I--even the FDA (as did the Obama administration in its brief) defines morning after pill and IUDs (which prevent implantation of a fertilized egg) that way, so you can chuck the "educate yourself if you disagree with me" attitude.

There's also nothing in that decision that restricts women's access to health care. Sandra Fluke simply has to pay for her own recreational sex.
Please provide proof of the FDA definition of IUD's & the morning after pill. And I have no problem w/the company providing coverage for other birth control methods. My problem is people thinking IUD's & the morning after are abortifacients when they are in fact, NOT.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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Stupid Hobby Lobby. Are they monitoring their "approved" regular BC pills? Woman on the Pill forgets to take a day or two of her pills, and doubles and triples up on them. Hey, Hobby Lobby That IS the Morning after Pill. It has the SAME hormones in it (higher doses) as their approved regular pills.
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Old 07-19-2014, 05:21 AM
 
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If you can't afford your own contraceptives, stop screwing around.
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Old 07-19-2014, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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If you can't afford your own contraceptives, stop screwing around.
Why, the government will pay for them.
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Old 07-19-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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Liberals can't stand what you've said.

...which is why I love what you've said.
Could someone please define "liberal" for me? I'm pretty centrist. I support the second amendment, I support the death penalty, and I support a woman's right to choose whether or not it's a good time in her life to have a baby.

The problem with the Hobby Lobby case is the fact that it was SCOTUS, so it has far reaching consequences.

Men like to have sex. Sometimes, sex has consequences. I don't think a man should be forced to be a father, and I don't think a woman should be forced to be a mother.

Birth control is best. It should be free. When I was in HS, it was easier to score coke than a birth control RX. Think on that, because humans are not going to suddenly start not having sex. That option is off the table.

Solutions?
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Old 07-19-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Could someone please define "liberal" for me? I'm pretty centrist. I support the second amendment, I support the death penalty, and I support a woman's right to choose whether or not it's a good time in her life to have a baby.

The problem with the Hobby Lobby case is the fact that it was SCOTUS, so it has far reaching consequences.

Men like to have sex. Sometimes, sex has consequences. I don't think a man should be forced to be a father, and I don't think a woman should be forced to be a mother.

Birth control is best. It should be free. When I was in HS, it was easier to score coke than a birth control RX. Think on that, because humans are not going to suddenly start not having sex. That option is off the table.

Solutions?
Easy, a liberal is anyone who does not ascribe to Faux news sheeple politics. If you're capable of independent thought and vote for both parties you fail this standard and are labeled liberal, and in a derogatory way!
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:03 AM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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Please get yourself educated & quit listening to lies. IUD's & the morning after are not abortifacients. I am not going to say it again, get it thru your head, ok?
My previous comment said "products that end life." Furthermore, it did not mention IUDs or the morning after pill, each of which is excluded by function from the scope of my previous comment.
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:07 AM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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If you can't afford your own contraceptives, stop screwing around.
That would require personal responsibility, which is antithetical to the intent of "free birth control."
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:20 AM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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I support a woman's right to choose
At what point in time does a woman obtain "the right to choose?"


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Birth control is best. It should be free.
Nothing is free. Who should have to pay for it, if not the consumer? Why or why not?


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When I was in HS, it was easier to score coke than a birth control RX.
There's nothing that an underage girl needs more than BC pills - considering that she's too young to be having sex.


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Think on that, because humans are not going to suddenly start not having sex. That option is off the table.
There are plenty of other methods of contraception besides BC pills. And yes, abstinence is one of them - the most effective one, at that.
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