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Old 06-30-2014, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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They're also saying this will open a can of worms. Now they'll be a case about people who don't believe in immunizations, and on and on. Blood transfusions will be coming soon. When will the madness end?

Pretty soon we'll have a church that doesn't believe in resetting broken bones! Bring on the anarchy and chaos.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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Lets see, Hobby Lobby is against anything that might mean abortion in any sense of the word. But they buy over $200 million worth of merchandise from China each year. And the Chinese government freely pays for abortions for any woman who wants one and has been accused of forced abortions. Sounds a little hypocritical to me.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:00 PM
 
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SCOTUS ruled today to allow corporations that are comprised of 5 or less owners that hold more than 50% ownership a right to impose their religious values on their employee's.

Justices: Can't make employers cover contraception
How exactly did the ruling allow anyone to impose anything on anyone? Since you're the OP you really should support your thread with a reasonable explanation.

Allowing someone or a company not to do something isn't imposing anything on anyone.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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Lets see, Hobby Lobby is against anything that might mean abortion in any sense of the word. But they buy over $200 million worth of merchandise from China each year. And the Chinese government freely pays for abortions for any woman who wants one and has been accused of forced abortions. Sounds a little hypocritical to me.
Lets see, what is hypocritical is not being able to keep you pants on or your legs closed and then expecting everyone else except you to pay for your lifestyle so you can do whatever you want.

Oh no, can't have people paying for their own choices, why that would be unAmerican.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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How exactly did the ruling allow anyone to impose anything on anyone? Since you're the OP you really should support your thread with a reasonable explanation.

Allowing someone or a company not to do something isn't imposing anything on anyone.
Why, it won't change your misguided value system. The ruling today allows companies to use religion as an excuse to not provide benefits if the corporation is owned by 5 or less individuals that make up a majority share. This allows religion to impose their will upon other who do not ascribe to their value system. Next up, will be a suite filed by Jehovah's Witness owned corporations that no blood transfusions or major surgeries occur, and on, and on. New religions can be created to object to other benefits being paid out. This ruling was the gateway to the desecration of separation of church and state, and therefore is allowing religion to impose its will on others.

Your rights under the constitution were taken away, and you've rolled over and accepted it like a dog having his belly rubbed.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:23 PM
 
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Do you realize they can still be made to pay for Viagra but not birth control?
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:30 PM
 
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I wonder if conservatives have thought much about the broader legal implications of conflating a company's owners with the company itself. Clearly they have not or they wouldn't be cheering so loud.

This case just set a precdent for "piercing the corporate veil," meaning that owners of a corporation (family-owned in this case) are not separate from the corporate entity itself-- a distinction that has historically protected owners from lawsuits. I guarantee that a trial lawyers will cite this case as a precedent and hold wealthy owners of corporations liable for the actions of their company.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Lets see, what is hypocritical is not being able to keep you pants on or your legs closed and then expecting everyone else except you to pay for your lifestyle so you can do whatever you want.

Oh no, can't have people paying for their own choices, why that would be unAmerican.

Most injuries and many illnesses are due to "lifestyle" choices.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: plano
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What is there to exploit? This decision is very limited and specific and clearly reflects that it is centered around the issue of contraception.









If nothing else I hope this brings us one step closer to severing the employer as healthcare provider relationship we've had in this country for far too long. We're one of a few nations that still uses this outdated and utterly redundant system where we are dependent upon our employers for our healthcare.
Right we should be treated like the vets under gov doesn't care healthcare operations.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:52 PM
 
Location: plano
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They pay me, I use that money to pay for insurance and gas. So technically yes they pay for for my insurance and gas
So if you buy drugs with your pay they should go to jail for you since they paid for,it ?
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