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Viagra and vasectomies are not necessary for optimum health while pregnancy prevention or abortion very early in a pregnancy can make all the difference in the world to optimum health of a woman. If HL will pay for those for men why not the other for women?
Your medical conditions are not your bosses business. Your boss doesn't need to know whether you are taking a bc pill or not. You are perfectly capable of going out on your own buying what you need without losing your job over it. Just because they are not covering doesn't mean they care whether you take it or not...they just won't be paying for it. Just like they don't pay for a lot of other things I mentioned.
My employer stopped covering several things (advair, orthodontics) and didn't even need a religious reason to do so. It was their choice. What's sad is companies have to now use freedom of religion to run their businesses as they see fit when they shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place.
Refuse SURGERY too like a D&C for a medical conditition? You are aware that women can have fibroids and turmors in their uterus, not just babies. It can be life threating. Does the religious exemption also mean they can choose life or death for an employee?
I hardly think orthodontics is in the same category as life saving surgery. No, it very sad that religion BLINDS people.
Viagra and vasectomies are not necessary for optimum health while pregnancy prevention or abortion very early in a pregnancy can make all the difference in the world to optimum health of a woman. If HL will pay for those for men why not the other for women?
Viagra and vasectomies are not abortion, which is what they are against.
Refuse SURGERY too like a D&C for a medical conditition? You are aware that women can have fibroids and turmors in their uterus, not just babies. It can be life threating. Does the religious exemption also mean they can choose life or death for an employee?
I hardly think orthodontics is in the same category as life saving surgery. No, it very sad that religion BLINDS people.
Firstly are the other forms of BC not sufficient? And what life saving surgery is HL against? And lastly orthodontics may not be in the same category but asthma most certainly is.
You do it once you are offered the job. I know myself and a lot of people do this. In several offer letters I have received, my pay along with whatever benefits were offered were disclosed. And if they weren't I asked, especially because I need vision insurance so I have to make sure that is offered. A lot of companies even have this information listed on their HR website for you to sign up for once you are offered a job and it will give you detailed information on what procedures/prescriptions are covered. In one case this information wasn't provided to me up front but I did know who the insurance provider was. I then called the insurance carrier and was directed to their website in which I put in my employers name and location and then it pulled up everything that the carrier covered for that particular companies employees.....even down to a comprehensive prescription list.
I think I would prefer to be employed rather than be unemployed & continually looking for a job that fits my benefits desire to a T. How ridiculous.
I also had an ectopic pregnancy in between my two daughters. I guess the religious exemption would apply to that one also since "We don't believe in killing babies". Well, maybe you don't, but "god" does because you will not have a baby being born from a fallopian tube. However, if left untreated the tube WILL rupture (dead baby) and the woman will hemorrhage from internal bleeding (dead woman). Nope, will not cover that either because abortion is murder and against my religion. That doesn't apply to the adult woman though?
Unbelieveable, how ignorant some people are, and religiously blind. Cannot see the forest (women) for the trees (babies).
Firstly are the other forms of BC not sufficient? And what life saving surgery is HL against? And lastly orthodontics may not be in the same category but asthma most certainly is.
Well isn't that an interesting question.... Abortion can be a life saving surgery for some women but they and others like them are more interested in the pre born than the already born.
Why did you bring up cell phones, cable TV,housing, and food if this "is about who pays for your contraceptive devices or whatever, nothing else"? Accept some personal responsibility for your earlier post.
Your constant references to sexual activity ("pants unzipped, legs closed; it takes a village to have sex"--as you put it) considerably broadens the scope of your critique well beyond employer-subsidized healthcare and even birth control. You conflate many disparate, complicated issues into a generic cliche that liberals "want stuff."
Personal responsiblity, in the context of this thread, means using birth control if you don't wish to get pregnant. It is about utilizing the heathcare that is available as part of your job benefits.
Personal responsibility means that if a company objects to the ACA mandate it will have enough integrity and honesty to challenge that law outright instead of disguising concern for the bottom line as religious freedom. If a corporation wants sincerely to express religious freedom, be honest and incorporate as a non-profit.
Human beings engage all kinds of irresponsible behaviour that ends up requiring medical treatment--very expensive treatment. Conservatives don't seem to have problem with coverage for injuries and illnesses in those situations (for example, shooting your friend in the face.)
Yes, SCOTUS made its ruling and we'll see what kind of precedent it sets in future cases. That's how the legal system works. That's why this ruling is not narrow and not about "who pays for contraceptive devices and nothing else."
I brought up all those other things because they are true and it was used to illustrate the mindset that also think contraception is a shared responsibility and financial burden.
Please, an injury requiring medical care isn't the same as needing or wanting contraception. Keep going though, the more you talk about this the easier it is to see just how futile the liberal opposition to the ruling really is.
Firstly are the other forms of BC not sufficient? And what life saving surgery is HL against? And lastly orthodontics may not be in the same category but asthma most certainly is.
The religious exemption does not only apply to HL. Catholic employers will object to diaphrams and sterlizations also. Reading comprehension. Why is a employee having a D&C???? Abortion or a medical condition. Religious employer will want to know WHY. So an employee has to tell boss their medicaly problems.
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