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Old 07-04-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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HARARE, ZIMBABWE — Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe has ordered the nation’s remaining white farmers to be booted off their farms in order that the land be given to black Zimbabweans.

In the harshest official policy on race and land reform in a country that has been close to bankruptcy, the 90-year old autocrat said Wednesday that whites may no longer own any land in Zimbabwe. Whites would still be allowed to own businesses and urban apartments.

Robert Mugabe says no whites may own land in Zimbabwe - CSMonitor.com
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Old 07-04-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Will the white farmers be forced to walk on a Trail of Tears?
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Old 02-10-2015, 07:36 AM
 
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While I generally lean against Mugabe's practice here, let's be clear that many of these white farmers got the land that they owned relatively recently through shady deals and outright theft of indigenous black African lands (they are not innocent bystanders here). Still, because those claims were supported by the governing power, regardless of how shady, I feel that appropriate compensation should be provided to any landowners being stripped of their land today. Either that or the government should develop other areas for the use of black farmers and others who unjustly lost their lands in the preceding decades. At the end of the day, many injustices have occurred throughout the world, but taking these kinds of drastic measures is also often not fair in their own right (think American Indians losing their land to European settlers and American Indians taking land from other American Indians prior to contact by European settlers) and threaten to lead to harsh economic realities today that are good for no one.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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That's racist.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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We should bomb them.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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Let them have it.

When it was Rhodesia it was a well run economically successful example of Western Civilization. Now that the Black race is running it, it has devolved to a lawless place of economic ruin, currency collapse, corruption, dreadful human rights, fraud and is essentially a dictatorship now.

I can't imagine why any Whites would want to go there to own property.

Example of a modern day complete currency collapse.


These will buy you nothing now.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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Let them have it.

When it was Rhodesia it was a well run economically successful example of Western Civilization. Now that the Black race is running it, it has devolved to a lawless place of economic ruin, currency collapse, corruption, dreadful human rights, fraud and is essentially a dictatorship now.

I can't imagine why any Whites would want to go there to own property.

Example of a modern day complete currency collapse.


These will buy you nothing now.
Yeah, the get back at the "White man" or fill in the blank never works well for anyone. Might give him a temporary feel good moment, but the end result is always bad.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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Let them have it.

When it was Rhodesia it was a well run economically successful example of Western Civilization. Now that the Black race is running it, it has devolved to a lawless place of economic ruin, currency collapse, corruption, dreadful human rights, fraud and is essentially a dictatorship now.

I can't imagine why any Whites would want to go there to own property.

Example of a modern day complete currency collapse.


These will buy you nothing now.
Rhodesia was well run? How was a country well run (or an economic success story) when the country systematically disenfranchised the overwhelming majority of its population and where the overwhelming majority of the population lived in abject poverty? Sure, white Rhodesians had it made, but it was hardly "well run." I guess you think the Jim Crow South was a well run economic success story, too?
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Some farmers have gotten around that problem by registering their farm hands as owners of the property. This is old news.

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Old 02-10-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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Let them have it.

When it was Rhodesia it was a well run economically successful example of Western Civilization. Now that the Black race is running it, it has devolved to a lawless place of economic ruin, currency collapse, corruption, dreadful human rights, fraud and is essentially a dictatorship now.

I can't imagine why any Whites would want to go there to own property.

Example of a modern day complete currency collapse.


These will buy you nothing now.
The sad story of Zimbabwe is simply an example of a pendulum swinging too far in both directions. When it was Rhodesia and the whites ran everything, the blacks were simply a permanent underclass of 6 million people controlled by 250,000 whites. There was no prospect for any real change. The country was economically better off, but most of the wealth flowed to the 250,000 white people. It was an untenable situation that couldn't have lasted. It was destined to collapse.The key mistake was when the white minority attempted to declare "independence" from the United Kingdom. If Britain had had enough time, it would have tried to negotiate a gradual transition of power from Smith's government to a black majority. That didn't happen and the rest is history. Bad history.

After, Mugabe became President of the new nation of Zimbabwe, the pendulum swung completely in the other direction. Its become clear over time that all Mugabe wants to do is punish the whites who still remain in the country and reward a few of his closest friends.

The moral of the story? Abuse leads to more abuse. Oppression leads to more oppression. It takes leaders like Nelson Mandela to break out of that kind of cycle of retribution and cruelty. Sadly, there are few Mandelas in any racial group.
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