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Old 07-10-2014, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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In some places they are in from the border because it is tribal land and they can not have a permanent structure there. They will patrol but not have a building. I heard a talk by 2 agents and they mentioned this.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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Close all USA military bases on foreign soil and redeploy them to our southern border.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I think you don't understand how vast this border is.
Are we the only country that has this vast border? Border regions by definition are remote and rugged but countries somehow manage to watch them. How come they can do it and we can't? I understand you don;t need a barrier everywhere. There are places that are naturally impassable but there are obvious passages that people cross in broad daylight with the CNN cameras watching. Parts of the Rio Grande is only ankle deep.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:35 AM
 
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That area uses a blimp mounted radar to watch the stretch. The blimp is across the street from a motel where a couple of watchers are always staying. The wind comes up....the blimp comes down and people pour over the remote border.

Are you near Penitas?


Before too long, they'll probably have those things every few miles from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Are we the only country that has this vast border? Border regions by definition are remote and rugged but countries somehow manage to watch them. How come they can do it and we can't? I understand you don;t need a barrier everywhere. There are places that are naturally impassable but there are obvious passages that people cross in broad daylight with the CNN cameras watching. Parts of the Rio Grande is only ankle deep.
It would actually be easier than this. If SS monies are paid in to the irs under David Jones, and the same number is getting SS monies paid in under Juan Lopez then Juan Lopez's employer is in violation, and can be fined, but must terminate him. No jobs then no reason to come here. Why this is not done is amazing to me. Like Jan Brewer in AZ, if you get pulled over you go to jail if you can't identify yourself.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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We have BILLIONS to give to 3rd world lands, but cant protect our own soil. Its obviously the world is run by higher powers, the govt here could careless about us.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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Are we the only country that has this vast border? Border regions by definition are remote and rugged but countries somehow manage to watch them. How come they can do it and we can't? I understand you don;t need a barrier everywhere. There are places that are naturally impassable but there are obvious passages that people cross in broad daylight with the CNN cameras watching. Parts of the Rio Grande is only ankle deep.
You think Canada has a sentry on every mile? Russia? If you want to look at the sort of installation it takes to actually stop determined people from crossing, you pretty much have to go full East Germany.

And the Border Patrol isn't staffed by idiots. Combining border patrols with a presence at inland chokepoints is the logical choice, once you realize that putting a million people shoulder-to-shoulder along the border is a losing proposition.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, VA
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Are we the only country that has this vast border? Border regions by definition are remote and rugged but countries somehow manage to watch them. How come they can do it and we can't? I understand you don;t need a barrier everywhere. There are places that are naturally impassable but there are obvious passages that people cross in broad daylight with the CNN cameras watching. Parts of the Rio Grande is only ankle deep.
I can't think of another border that is this long + separates such contrasting levels of quality of life and access to opportunities + is accessible to such a large population of potential immigrants. In most places the change in the level quality of life across borders is more gradual.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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And the Border Patrol isn't staffed by idiots. Combining border patrols with a presence at inland chokepoints is the logical choice, once you realize that putting a million people shoulder-to-shoulder along the border is a losing proposition.
There is so much straw man in this post it feels like Thanksgiving. What fence is in place NOW was once said to be impractical and ineffective. Have you noticed there are no trespassing in California? Are there a million men standing shoulder to shoulder? Why are Texas and Arizona their favorite crossing points?
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: NJ
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people wont try to cross if you shoot at them.
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