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View Poll Results: Is this considered harassment?
Yes 102 44.93%
No 74 32.60%
50/50 51 22.47%
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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It's NYC, what can you expect ?

Do that somewhere decent like Dallas, Kansas City, Atlanta and you'll get a very boring video.
There are no people on the street in those cities. It has nothing to do with men being more or less respectful based on city of residence.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Notice all of these men represented a certain *ahem* demographic?
Yup. That's how it goes unfortunately.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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1) "How are you this morning?" and "have a nice evening" constitutes "harassment"? Sounds like CNN is trying too hard.
Yes, it's harassment. Objectifying women on the street is harassment.

Unless these dudes are doing the exact same thing to everyone else, regardless of gender, age, looks, etc., they're targeting women for harassment.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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While most women won't admit it, there is a level that they like and expect. The exception is if they are old hags and then they have fake outrage at the situation. If a good looking woman walked down a NY street and didn't get any looks or comments, I honestly believe she would wonder whats wrong. Most of the examples in this video were innocent, and polite comments and hardly harassment. Guys are always looking to start up a conversation with women and there is nothing wrong with that. Enjoy it now because one day you will not be so hot and the comments will stop.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I lived in NYC, and it is really annoying to have guys making comments all the time. This was not people 'just being friendly' either. It did not matter what I was wearing--much of the time I was dressed for work and I worked in an office. Solution was mini walkman (no Ipods then) and sunglasses. It pretty much blocked them all out.

It does not only happen in NYC. It is anywhere in the US women walk in towns or cities. In smaller towns, you can be walking on the sidewalk and guys will still comment or yell stuff out their car windows when they go by. I have noticed that this is not something that happens a lot in European cities.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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If a good looking woman walked down a NY street and didn't get any looks or comments, I honestly believe she would wonder whats wrong.
Total bull.

I used to date a girl and she would come in off the street in tears, with all the objectifying comments. She hated it! She didn't even wear form-fitting clothes, but she had a figure that would get comments.

"My, you a healthy lookin woman!"; "Girl, why don't you smile?", or doing the kissy sounds. It's harrassment and these losers should be ashamed. And, yeah, it was only one demographic doing all the comments.

A subtle smile, a quick glance, an appreciative nod is one thing, but, staring, following, verbalizing your perv thoughts, is wrong, and needs to stop.
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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While most women won't admit it, there is a level that they like and expect. The exception is if they are old hags and then they have fake outrage at the situation. If a good looking woman walked down a NY street and didn't get any looks or comments, I honestly believe she would wonder whats wrong. Most of the examples in this video were innocent, and polite comments and hardly harassment. Guys are always looking to start up a conversation with women and there is nothing wrong with that. Enjoy it now because one day you will not be so hot and the comments will stop.
This is totally not true and sounds incredibly patronizing. Guys looking to start up a conversation this way with a a stranger on the street probably do not meet a lot of women. Women who "wonder what is wrong" if they don't get catcalls or have strange men harassing them on the street most likely have very low self esteem. Many women I know find this type of behavior obnoxious and they definitely are not "old hags."
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Old 10-29-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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What 10 hours of street harassment looks like - CNN.com

Don't like this at all but I found the one guy who kept saying "DAMN....DAMN" quite funny.

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On a different thread on this subforum, a poster said the issue was "cultural". I'd like to know more about that. I noticed that the subject of the film chose certain neighborhoods. We don't see her walking through the Upper East Side or Park Avenue, where I'm betting her experience would have been completely different (though we haven't seen the entire 10 hrs.) I'd like to get a better understanding of how street harassment is "cultural". I know if she'd walked through most neighborhoods in Seattle or Berkeley, CA, or San Francisco, no one would have noticed her.

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Old 10-29-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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This is totally not true and sounds incredibly patronizing. Guys looking to start up a conversation this way with a a stranger on the street probably do not meet a lot of women. Women who "wonder what is wrong" if they don't get catcalls or have strange men harassing them on the street most likely have very low self esteem. Many women I know find this type of behavior obnoxious and they definitely are not "old hags."
This. Most of the women I've known don't attract attention at all. They feel invisible. They're not expecting or wanting catcalls (or shouted orders to smile--that's common, from what I hear), or to be approached by dudes who appear to be loitering and unemployed. They do hope for an occasional friendly chat in the grocery store or at a public event. They say (and this was the subject of a thread in the Relationships forum) that being approached on the street makes them uncomfortable, and isn't appropriate. There's a psychological factor there that women can explain better than I can. But I thought the way the woman in the film was followed by two guys (on separate occasions) was a little freaky. That's not normal behavior.
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Old 10-29-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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The sad thing is that these guys really do ruin it for a lot of the normal guys out there.

There are actually normal guys out there that don't mind starting up a normal conversation with an attractive women in the street, and without just wanting her for sex.
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