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Old 11-15-2014, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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This is real...and I'm worried how much worse it will get. My last employer required an annual physical as part of the 'lowest premium' option for insurance. Also was the more common 'smoking cessation' incentive. My new employer has a 'join the company wellness program' as an incentive.
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:07 PM
 
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I had to take a physical for work and a drug test at first, but I've never heard of "Wellness Test" - sounds invasive both of privacy and the body. What you have listed freaks me out.
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:09 PM
 
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Sounds like some people need to find jobs at other companies. I've had health insurance for decades through various employers all over the country and have never had to endure anything even remotely like this. Heck, if we have a gym membership we get a discount! No one asks for blood, urine, or any exam.
Yes, I would be looking for a new job. The stress of having a job where you have to submit to physicals all the time would cause me too much stress and I would be having that "big party" we talked about a lot sooner.
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I had to take a physical for work and a drug test at first, but I've never heard of "Wellness Test" - sounds invasive both of privacy and the body. What you have listed freaks me out.

That's how I feel, but its a requirement for the lowest premiums. Big Brother is more intrusive than you think. I should add, I've only worked for Fortune 1000 companies. Also had the pre-employment, and annual 'random' drug screens.
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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Yes, I would be looking for a new job. The stress of having a job where you have to submit to physicals all the time would cause me too much stress and I would be having that "big party" we talked about a lot sooner.
no parties....not yet!


If everyone refuses to take all these tests, a company will have no employees really quick. Hard to keep a business going with 3 people when you have 150 employees.
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Old 11-16-2014, 12:13 AM
 
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no parties....not yet!


If everyone refuses to take all these tests, a company will have no employees really quick. Hard to keep a business going with 3 people when you have 150 employees.
No, I don't want to have the "big party" yet - hope it is many (many) decades away but really working in a place that forces you to take a physical and whatever else they want to do to you at their whim would be just too stressful and if one was a healthy person, just the thought that they can tell you to report to the company doctor or clinic for any body part inspection would cause illness both physical and mental over time. If people just refuse, in large numbers, the company will hear them and if they want to retain competent (and healthy) employees, they better get rid of their "inspection" wellness exams. IT's creepy! I can see where in the future this kind of thing can be done for evil, like in the science fiction story, maybe the company will get cells from their present employees to clone future employees and they won't have to pay them a salary
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Old 11-16-2014, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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no parties....not yet!


If everyone refuses to take all these tests, a company will have no employees really quick. Hard to keep a business going with 3 people when you have 150 employees.
There are millions jobless today. I'd bet almost all of them would gladly take the tests tomorrow (a Sunday) for a job.
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Old 11-16-2014, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Well, "single payer" *is* socialism. You can like it (there are lots of socialists around) or not like it, but calling something by its proper name is usually a good idea...

Not necessarily. There are a lot of ways to structure a single-payer system, and not all of them are socialist models. Britain's system, in which the government not only pays the bills but essentially owns and operates the entire system, is an example of a socialist model. So is the American VA health care system.

Our Medicare system, on the other hand, is an example of a single-payer system that is not socialist. The government pays the bills, but private companies administer the benefits and the medical professionals and facilities are all private individuals or facilities. This is not a socialist model, no matter what ignorant blowhards like Rush Limbaugh like to claim.

By the way, when Taiwan was redesigning their entire health care system about 20 years ago, they basically copied our Medicare system and applied it to all their citizens, not just the elderly. They consistently rate in the Top 10 health care systems worldwide, whereas the United States comes in somewhere in the 20 or low 30s, depending on who's doing the ranking. They seem to like their non-socialist single payer system just fine over there.
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Old 11-16-2014, 01:29 AM
 
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That's how I feel, but its a requirement for the lowest premiums. Big Brother is more intrusive than you think. I should add, I've only worked for Fortune 1000 companies. Also had the pre-employment, and annual 'random' drug screens.



Now some time has passed since the inception of the pre-employment screening we can now easily look back and see the "creep" (that many laugh at it even existing) growing over the years.

Didn't really take all that long and growing even faster with each year.


Drug screen/backround screen/Physc screen/Credit screen/body screen........what next?
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Low level employees are not the only ones at risk. Increasingly, Fortune 500 Companies are effectively requiring Senior Managers over 50 to take extensive wellness checks that involve MRI scans and deep screening/testing for medical conditions that, the companies say, may lead to dangerous conditions in the work place.

I don't know if any of these programs have been challenged in the courts under statutory, administrative or constitutional law, but for the screening forms and tests that I have been told about, employers have been very careful about linking 14th amendment exceptions to the "reasonable and rationally related" standard for any possible exceptions that they may be subjected to under the Interstate Commerce Clause.
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