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Old 11-23-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: MN
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Should they teleport to Florida? I mean, how do you expect them to get elsewhere with no money? Hitchhiking isn't viable, nobody will pick up someone that looks homeless.
There are ways to ride trains with no money.

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Old 11-23-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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I happen to know two different homeless men. One is 54 years old and has been homeless for several years. The other is just 32 years old. The 32-year-old used to drive a pickup truck until the transmission got damaged. Both men are addicted to drugs. The worse thing you can do is judge a homeless person because many of them have had hard lives. Life takes many turns, and you can never know where it will take you.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Isn't that illegal? O_o
 
Old 11-23-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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"We?"

The escalating costs for housing the mentally ill forced the benevolent collectivist state to close down facilities and dump them into the streets.

As to the source for inflation, again, it's the benevolent collectivist state.
There has never been that much benevolence for the mentally ill.

Costs were not escalating. Antipsychotic medications arrived and many thought that it would be more humane and cheaper to have them live in the community. The promised community support service were minimal at best and funds cut at every opportunity.

I don't know how we can do this and continue to call ourselves a Christian nation.

"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in."

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Old 11-23-2014, 04:45 PM
 
Location: MN
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Isn't that illegal? O_o
It is, but it's something where the benefits should outweigh the negatives. I'm not saying everyone should go jump on trains to get places, but if hitching rides on trains gets you out of freezing to death I'm all for it.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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Isn't that illegal? O_o
If it means the difference between life and death (freezing and not freezing) then they'll take that risk. Many homeless people ride the cargo trains to warmer climates. Others beg for enough money to ride Greyhound down south - you can take the bus from NYC to Miami for less than $100 one way.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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If you go into any county social service agency and say you have a job opportunity in Florida or your sister said you could live with her, you are likely to have a bus ticket in the snap of a finger.

Every once in a while, there's a bit of a fuss and bother over "Greyhound Therapy" or patient dumping as it is sometimes called, but that soon blows over.

'Greyhound Therapy' and America's Mental Health Crisis*|*Dan Rather
 
Old 11-23-2014, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Interesting post. When I was getting my BS in Psych was right about the time that they were going to let all these mentally ill people out of state hospitals because it was a impingement of their rights. My abnormal Psych prof. was totally against this. This is about the same time "One flew over the cookoos nest" came out. It should have never been changed. Sometimes, to take care of people, their freedoms have to be taken away, especially if they are a danger to themselves. Now we don't have care facilities for them. Truly sad.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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A lot of shelters only take women and children, so if you're a guy you SOL. Heck, I remember they interviewed a homeless woman on the street and she said the shelter said they could take her and her 10 year old daughter but not her 14 year old son
 
Old 11-23-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: I live wherever I am.
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Chances are, the only people who do freeze to death will be the non-criminals. The criminals will do something that gets them incarcerated so that they get three hots and a cot.

The moral of the story is - if you think you'll be homeless this winter, research crimes that'll get you a few months in the pokey and keep on committing them until you get locked up.
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