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Old 11-26-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Ubique
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Originally Posted by qworldorder View Post
What's the alternative? Clearly the justice system is broken.
When you don't get the desired outcome from the justice system -- that does not mean that it is broken. Prosecutors tried the cop in the easiest way to get him convicted, and they just couldn't. Evidence was just so overwhelming that Michael Brown was the aggressor, and the cop is the victim, who acted in self-defense.

Thank God this case was not tried by the mob, or the halls of the Justice Department, although both are two faces of the same thing.

Riots have no just cause. These are agitated mobs, up to their ears with racial propaganda, and radical rabble-rousers whose only strategy is scorched earth. Just create enemies where there are none. IMO, not unlike what radical left-wing is doing to the country.

These punks give true revolutionaries a bad name. Whether they are our founding fathers, or those students 25 years ago who overthrew Socialism, and their radical left-wingers who oppressed them for 45 years. Talk about revolution!!

 
Old 11-26-2014, 05:58 AM
 
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What's the alternative? Clearly the justice system is broken. The 'good' ways to protest are falling on deaf ears. Revolution is what's really needed, on the scale of MLK. Surprised it's not a full blown riot, yet.
How is it broken? When those who "lost" are disgruntled and say so on TV, with their special licence afforded by their black skins? I don't think so.
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Henry10 View Post
When you don't get the desired outcome from the justice system -- that does not mean that it is broken. Prosecutors tried the cop in the easiest way to get him convicted, and they just couldn't. Evidence was just so overwhelming that Michael Brown was the aggressor, and the cop is the victim, who acted in self-defense.

Thank God this case was not tried by the mob, or the halls of the Justice Department, although both are two faces of the same thing.

Riots have no just cause. These are agitated mobs, up to their ears with racial propaganda, and radical rabble-rousers whose only strategy is scorched earth. Just create enemies where there are none. IMO, not unlike what radical left-wing is doing to the country.

These punks give true revolutionaries a bad name. Whether they are our founding fathers, or those students 25 years ago who overthrew Socialism, and their radical left-wingers who oppressed them for 45 years. Talk about revolution!!
And now you sound like an old nut yourself. What "socialism"? Right wing nutbags are just as foul tasting as left wing nutbags. Mirror image of each other. The issue is with the black community and how it needs to move forward, not some stupid "socialism" conspiracy or "left wing oppression".
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lunetunelover View Post
No, I don't have much experience with guns. That's just not something I have an interest in. However, that doesn't make me some naive little poster on the internet who doesn't know how things work "in the real world." My husband was a sharp shooter in the military and participated in William Tell competitions regularly.

Anyone with decent gun skills could manage not to shoot to kill. Rarely is the intended target so far away that the only thing you can hit is the torso. A good shot to a knee or leg will just as easily get a criminal target down so they can be arrested.

If you can't understand that, then I'm glad you aren't cops.
Are you serious ? Your first sentence claims you don't have much experience with firearms, but your husband does from prior military competitions. Then you state anyone with decent firearms skills can manage to shot , not to kill. Wow, simply wow. This isn't the movie Expendables or the game Call of Duty. Getting shots off in a defensive position when your life is on the line vs shooting at targets in a controlled environment are two COMPLETLY different things. The only thing that matters in a defensive shooting is stopping the threat, nothing more. And it is probably a good thing you aren't a cop, because if a good shot to a knee or leg is good enough to get a criminal down you wouldn't survive your first encounter with some criminal high on PCP, or some other crazy drug.

Special Force Science series: Why shooting to wound doesn't make sense scientifically, legally or tactically
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Why is it when a black person is killed by the police they riot and call it race related and then the blacks all riot and loot and burn things. But when a black person kills a white police officer it's ok we're are the riots when this happens, why don't the whites riot and loot. I'll tell you why because we are civilized and we do not use a killing as an excuse to steal things.

because the black person is arrested I am for protest-- not violence, riots and destruction that is sickening to me. Protest and let your voices be heard, but don't tear down what another man has built that has nothing to do with it.
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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The majority of the media's talking points focus on a while police officer killing an unarmed black man. IF M. Brown had been Caucasian and Darren Wilson were African-American, would anyone have been in an uproar about the situation?

Michael Brown chose to:

- Rob the convenience store and manhandle the clerk
- Walk down the middle of the roadway
- Ignore Officer Wilson's instruction to get off the road and move to the sidewalk
- Walk over to Officer Wilson's patrol car, reach through the window and hit the officer twice in the face
- Got shot by officer during struggle
- Run away from the officer
- Turn around and begin charging at the officer
- Refuse to drop to the ground when instructed several times by the officer
- Reach under his shirt (as though he had a firearm)
- Continue charging in a threatening manner toward the officer

The incident is nothing unique; it may occur numerous times on any given day/night in many areas across the country, by people of all ethic groups. HOWEVER, since the officer is white and the perp was black, it is now tagged as a racial issue and the victim, Michael Brown, was killed by a white officer because white officers can't wait to shoot and kill black people.
You stated the facts, the folks supporting the uproar/riots don't want to believe them.....(I added one step you forgot to mention).

In my opinion is not a racial issue.....this was a "thug that brought his fists to a gunfight!"

But just as in Trayvon's case:

1. Black vs. white
2. Thug life downplayed (show younger photos of the victims vs. present day photos)
3. Victims were going to go to college (yeah sure), future lives ruined
4. Media runs wild, everyone gets fired up and Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson arrive to manage the media.

How many blacks die every day at the hands of their peers? Yet no one riots over that? hmmmmm
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:34 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Better Than You View Post
Let's get this striaght once and for all - Nobody's trying to "honor" the deceased. The family is looking for money and the "protesters" have various agendas (looting, revenge, hate, etc).

Looting = thieves with an excuse!
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:38 AM
 
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Poor little bully Darren. Take hiz pic he'll arrest you. If he wasn't a POS why didn't he ge t to stay in Jennings? Skinhead, jug eared, no chin, lady hipped ***** who got his power from a gun. Bet he don't go back to piggin in Ferguson. Why? He a punk ass blue *****

Not sure you are right.........Brown thought a lot like you and he isn't giving any interviews!
Brown was playing the bully roll that day with the clerk (video is proof) and he tried to act tough with the cop and lost. I don't envy Officer Wilson one bit but if I had to chose having him as my neighbor or Mike Brown I would easily chose the cop.
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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If the Grand Jury had indicted Officer Wilson, they would have been cheering and hooping and hollering and going YAY JUSTICE !!! GREAT GRAND JURY.. YEAH…
 
Old 11-26-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Originally Posted by City Guy997S View Post
You stated the facts, the folks supporting the uproar/riots don't want to believe them.....(I added one step you forgot to mention).

In my opinion is not a racial issue.....this was a "thug that brought his fists to a gunfight!"

But just as in Trayvon's case:

1. Black vs. white
2. Thug life downplayed (show younger photos of the victims vs. present day photos)
3. Victims were going to go to college (yeah sure), future lives ruined
4. Media runs wild, everyone gets fired up and Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson arrive to manage the media.

How many blacks die every day at the hands of their peers? Yet no one riots over that? hmmmmm
yes there are killings - but who goes to jail>?
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