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So after I explained to you how you were wrong, your rebuttal is "you don't understand at all, I'm not going to get into the nitty gritty of things, it would be way to complex, just realize that I'm right." Oh, OK, I'm sure this works in real life for you, as well.
So after I explained to you how you were wrong, your rebuttal is "you don't understand at all, I'm not going to get into the nitty gritty of things, it would be way to complex, just realize that I'm right." Oh, OK, I'm sure this works in real life for you, as well.
Yeah, the sort of trick you're trying to pull (claiming a link says something it does not) is something you can only get away with on the internet. This is why I'm not investing time in explaining it to you, because you're either being obtuse or you really can't understand what you're reading. Either way, my time is wasted going past the basics. Enough lurkers will read the info and understand it that you admitting you're floundering is not necessary.
I just saw a small bottle of non-Rx Ibuprofen and it said "Gluten free" on it. I thought gluten was only dangerous to people with celiac disease, which is like 1% of people. Is something else going on or is it insanity like people buying pet rocks?
There's a South Park episode called "Gluten Free Ebola." I haven't seen it, but it indicates the latest fads or insecurities.
Gluten is also dangerous to people who have a life-threatening allergy to gluten, like a family member of mine.
And even if it was just that 1% of people who are gluten-free because they are celiac, some of those people are, like my family, calling every single company to inquire about the inclusion of gluten (a common filler ingredient in many products) and/or cross contamination from gluten (from shared processing facilities with other products that involve gluten) in the product. For some companies, it may be more efficient to print this info on the product instead of having to field all those calls. It's not just a matter of asking if there's wheat; gluten hides in many forms not immediately obvious (e.g. spices, herbs, flavoring, MSG).
Having said that, I suspect companies are printing "gluten-free" on their labels, since the gluten-free market only continues to grow (read: $$$), thanks to people who are genuinely gluten intolerant as well as other people who have adopted gluten-free because it's trendy. My family member is at great risk due to a gluten allergy, so I am thankful more companies are disclosing their gluten status. Only several years ago, some of those same companies now touting "gluten-free" as a marketing message refused to answer customer questions about products' gluten status. Their answer was: "We can't tell you what's in our product. If you think you might be allergic to something in our product, don't consume it." Uh, gee, thanks.
But now that gluten-free is all the rage, they're only more than happy to disclose what they refused to share when asked by people with legitimate health concerns. Not cool, but well, you take what you can get.
But yet people will think that they weren't true allergies or it is just some silly ploy. They don't know and don't care to know Just take a sampling off of this thread who think there is a placebo effect with gluten issues. Is there some, sure but there's enough who have true issues.
I think that's a huge issue. I was one of the posters who said it is a fad, but did say there are people with real issues. There is a placebo effect with gluten issues with SOME people, IMO. There are certain people who will learn of an intolerance (gluten, lactose, etc...) and adopt it. The food companies jump in line and start to market to it. My issue with the gluten-free market is that it's now being marketed as a weight loss solution, and it's not. Wheat-free can help with weight loss, but substituting gluten-free baked goods is not. It also annoys me that there are people who really and truly cannot tolerate gluten (and substitute any other type of food) and suddenly the general public can't either.
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I just saw a small bottle of non-Rx Ibuprofen and it said "Gluten free" on it. I thought gluten was only dangerous to people with celiac disease, which is like 1% of people. Is something else going on or is it insanity like people buying pet rocks?
There's a South Park episode called "Gluten Free Ebola." I haven't seen it, but it indicates the latest fads or insecurities.
Pills are made with a lot of fillers, and in the past, wheat flour was one of them. Less common now, but yes, people with celiac do need to know this.
I think that's a huge issue. I was one of the posters who said it is a fad, but did say there are people with real issues. There is a placebo effect with gluten issues with SOME people, IMO. There are certain people who will learn of an intolerance (gluten, lactose, etc...) and adopt it. The food companies jump in line and start to market to it. My issue with the gluten-free market is that it's now being marketed as a weight loss solution, and it's not. Wheat-free can help with weight loss, but substituting gluten-free baked goods is not. It also annoys me that there are people who really and truly cannot tolerate gluten (and substitute any other type of food) and suddenly the general public can't either.
I think for SOME, it can help their body chemistry to lose weight. It also helps create a sustained diet which works for all forms of weight loss. Most people have issues with diets because they do it for short periods (weeks to months) rather than for the rest of their life.
I think it is similar to being vegan or vegetarian where you hear those that have changed their diets and feel energized and less sluggish and now you want that as well and not realize that maybe your body chemistry is fine as it is.
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I actually GAINED weight when I quit eating gluten, but I was thrilled as the pounds started piling on, because I had lost something like 80 pounds in the previous year and a half -- no explanation, I hadn't changed my diet at all.
I was down to 115 pounds, which was skeletal for my 5'7" height. My naturopath explained that I was suffering from malnutrition, likely due to the damage done to my small intestine by gluten, among other substances, making it difficult for me to absorb nutrients through the intestinal wall. I also had autoimmune symptoms probably caused by gut wall damage which allowed large proteins to leak out of my gut, into places they really didn't belong.
Imagine the inside of your intestines covered with a layer of spackle. Your gut is lined with microscopic hairs called cilia, which are integral to the process of nutrient absorption. Now compare those fine hairs to the hair on your head, and imagine how your head hair would behave if you plastered it with a thick layer of paste that you couldn't remove. This might be an oversimplification, but I think it's an apt analogy.
Also, consider that an astounding amount of your neurochemistry happens in your gut! The article that "switched on the light" for me was this one:
Speaking just for myself here, I don't want to reintroduce any amount of "glue" back into that neurochemical system! Under the supervision of my naturopath, I tried a gluten challenge, approximately a year and a half after I quit eating gluten. I ate some whole wheat bread, and spent four days in the bathroom.
As far as I'm concerned, they damn well better keep sticking those "gluten free" labels on all food that is truly gluten free and anybody who thinks it's that big a deal to print a little notice on a label needs to simply find something actually significant to spend their worry time on!
Speaking just for myself here, I don't want to reintroduce any amount of "glue" back into that neurochemical system! Under the supervision of my naturopath, I tried a gluten challenge, approximately a year and a half after I quit eating gluten. I ate some whole wheat bread, and spent four days in the bathroom.
As far as I'm concerned, they damn well better keep sticking those "gluten free" labels on all food that is truly gluten free and anybody who thinks it's that big a deal to print a little notice on a label needs to simply find something actually significant to spend their worry time on!
My girlfriend made slaw on Thanksgiving and that is normally a free zone food for me.
Come to find out, she made it with bottled ranch dressing that contains gluten. I spent most of Thanksgiving in the bathroom.
I'm allergic to people... The more I'm around most of them the worse I feel. Is there a people free diet?
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